Bill, you were right

Now you did it!

We have spent the last 5 years telling Bill that he is an idiot, and now you
come around and validate him. Crap. Now we have to start all over again ...




"Eric" > wrote in message
...
> Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
> think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
> anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
> Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
> will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and
be
> done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
> Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
> being too hard on the throttle.
>
> I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
> involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
> going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
>

Thanks muches Frank: http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c\Dramatized.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O


FrankW wrote:
>
> Gi'day Bill
> Seeing as you like to collect pics and vids of broken D35's
> Here's a couple links for ya from the local Jeep Club
>
> http://www.ottawajeepclub.ca/videos/...dsOfNature.wmv
>
> and
>
> http://www.ottawajeepclub.ca/videos/...OfNature-2.wmv
>
> Cheers
> Frank

http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/Dramatized.htm

> Thanks muches Frank: http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/Dramatized.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>

ROTFLMAO!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Now you did it!
>
> We have spent the last 5 years telling Bill that he is an idiot, and now you
> come around and validate him. Crap. Now we have to start all over again ...
>
> "Eric" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
> > think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
> > anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
> >
> > Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
> > will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and
> be
> > done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
> >
> > Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
> > being too hard on the throttle.
> >
> > I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
> > involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
> > going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
> >

Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
through you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

I use 5th gear all the time. Of course, now I have a broken axle, but I
don't think that's a coincidence.

Eric
"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
news:1119881695.df82410e8461ac896b3b881b79e5a062@t eranews...
> Avoid overdrive gear. I don't think that it can handle this combination,
> except maybe in a tail wind or a long descent.
>
> Earle
>
> "Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm hoping that being open with 4.10's, on 33's, and running a 4cyl I
> should
>> be OK.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
>> news:QpLve.705$HV1.77@fed1read07...
>> > It's usually adding a locker that makes the difference most of the
>> > time.
>> > 33" tires without a locker CAN snap an axleshaft in a D35c but the
>> > vast majority of such failures with 33" and smaller tires had a locker
>> > in the equation.
>> >
>> > Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> > > wow... I'm running 33's on my D35 but I'm not locked up. Hope mine
>> doesn't
>> > > break! How wide are your tires?
>> > >
>> > > Carl
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Eric" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > >
>> > >>I'm running 33's and a D35. The locker was a lock-right from
> powertrax
>> > >
>> > > (or
>> > >
>> > >>so I think...).
>> > >>
>> > >>Be careful if you're wheeling any rocks. If I'd have been locked in
> the
>> > >>front I'd have been ok. But the rear was doing all of the work. I
> was
>> > >>turning and going up a ledge when it broke. Ugly stuff.
>> > >>
>> > >>Eric
>> > >>"Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > >>
>> > >>>Eric -
>> > >>> What size tires are you running? What kind of locker? What were
> you
>> > >>>doing? I'm concerned because I've got a D35 on 33's.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Carl
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>"Eric" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a
> PITA!
>> > >
>> > > I
>> > >
>> > >>>>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite
> lock
>> > >>>>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider
> gears
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > >>>>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the
>> > >>>>front
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > >>>be
>> > >>>
>> > >>>>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I
>> wasn't
>> > >>>>being too hard on the throttle.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll
>> > >>>>love
>> > >>>>it --
>> > >>>>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We
>> were
>> > >>>>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>Eric
>> > >>>>99 TJ SE
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jerry Bransford
>> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> > See the Geezer Jeep at
>> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>
>

Here's a pic showing me under it. Note the snatch block above me, the tow
strap hooked to a winch on the driver's side, the high lift just to my left,
and the bottle jack on the axle to the right/front of me...

http://photobucket.com/albums/v242/T...t=100_0198.jpg

Here's a series. The first one is where the break happened (just click the
right carat to cycle through):

http://www.stx4wd.com/gallery/displa...lbum=17&pos=43

Eric

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hey, where are the pictures for us Jeepers living vicariously
> through you.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> ROTFLMAO!
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may not be
strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.


Eric wrote:
>Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>
>Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and be
>done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>
>Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>being too hard on the throttle.
>
>I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love it --
>involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE


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You are just now getting concerned? Lol people amaze me.
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"Carl Saiyed" > wrote in message
...
> Eric -
> What size tires are you running? What kind of locker? What were you
> doing? I'm concerned because I've got a D35 on 33's.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Eric" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>> think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>> anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>>
>> Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>> will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and
> be
>> done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>>
>> Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>> being too hard on the throttle.
>>
>> I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love
>> it --
>> involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>> going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>

Okay boys, I have limited off-road experience and none of the extreme of
what these videos and pictures have been showing. My question, as a novice
and interested party is, just how common is axle breakage? Do you have to
"try" to break an axle or is it something I need to worry about?




"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
...
> Now you did it!
>
> We have spent the last 5 years telling Bill that he is an idiot, and now
> you
> come around and validate him. Crap. Now we have to start all over again
> ...
>
>
>
>
> "Eric" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Well, today I did it. I broke my Dana 35. Holy smokes. What a PITA! I
>> think I somehow messed up the locker in the process (won't quite lock
>> anymore -- seems to be always ratcheting). *sigh*
>>
>> Anyhow, I'm not locking that 35 ever again -- I kept the spider gears and
>> will be putting them back in this week. I'm going to lock the front and
> be
>> done with it until I can afford/find a good deal on an 8.8/D44/9".
>>
>> Never would've thought that puny 2.5L could've done that. And I wasn't
>> being too hard on the throttle.
>>
>> I'll post links to the photos when I get them uploaded. You'll love
>> it --
>> involves two winches, a hi-lift, two bottle jacks, and a tire. We were
>> going for the darwin award -- but are still alive.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>