What could cause a roundel to fade overnight?

No... Not Bull. Any car wash that has a brush or soft cloth touch the car
will scrape the paint all to ****. If you give me $5 I'll take an old dirty
rag or some 2000grit sandpaper and scrape it up just as good! I'm even
skeptical to run my car through a touchless wash where the jets of water blast
the dirt against the paint.

I'll stick with handwashes even in -15 weather!

Bradwith Furnsfeather

>Bull.
>
>It's just a car. Mine goes through a *brush* carwash once every two
>weeks or so.
>--
>Dan Drake
>

On 11 Nov 2004 19:11:00 GMT, (KoKaineBoy) wrote:

>No... Not Bull. Any car wash that has a brush or soft cloth touch the car
>will scrape the paint all to ****. If you give me $5 I'll take an old dirty
>rag or some 2000grit sandpaper and scrape it up just as good! I'm even
>skeptical to run my car through a touchless wash where the jets of water blast
>the dirt against the paint.

(difficult to trim effectively for context due to top posting twit)

You misunderstand. I accept that wear and tear occurs. I am under no
illusions that a car can be used, yet somehow preserved in showroom
condition at the same time, as some weird people think you can do. My
point is that I prefer to use it - and wash the crap off it
periodically, which includes running it through those nasty ol' whirly
brush car washes.

Jeez, it's just a car. It's not supposed to last forever.
--
Dan Drake

In article >,
Dan Drake > wrote:
> My point is that I prefer to use it - and wash the crap off it
> periodically, which includes running it through those nasty ol' whirly
> brush car washes.

Perhaps I'm too sensitive, but I'd rather leave it until I get time to
wash it by hand than put up with those horrid swirly scratches.
But I enjoy washing a car. Until I notice the latest car park ding. I
then weep. ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 23:43:13 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
> wrote:

> But I enjoy washing a car. Until I notice the latest car park ding. I
>then weep. ;-)

Yes, but right after that I also breathe a sigh of relief, because
after the first stone chip or door ding rapes your virgin daughter,
so to speak, then you care less about it. It would be nice to have a
'new' three year old car, but you can't - at least not if you use it.

And yes, I *did* have a virgin daughter at one time...
--
Dan Drake

"Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> Dan Drake > wrote:
> > My point is that I prefer to use it - and wash the crap off it
> > periodically, which includes running it through those nasty ol' whirly
> > brush car washes.
>
> Perhaps I'm too sensitive, but I'd rather leave it until I get time to
> wash it by hand than put up with those horrid swirly scratches.
> But I enjoy washing a car. Until I notice the latest car park ding. I
> then weep. ;-)

Last month the guys at the front of the carwash...whose job is to
power wash the brake dust off the wheels...use plastic brushes on mop
handles after applying a chemical of sorts.

They nonchantly dip the brush head into a tub of solution and BRUSH
THE HOOD AND LOWER DOORS NEAR THE ROCKER PANELS....after using it on
the wheels!

I went ballistic...and sure enough, I have left to right hairline
scratches on the hood (bonnet).

Dumbasses!

David H.

I have seen similar here in London. Hair-raising. That's why I prefer
mechanical washes, not a hand-wash by ignorant, untrained people who know
nothing about paint care and have only been employed because they are
desparate for a job and are prepared to take any pay...and may even be here
illegallly so have no recourse to anyone at all..

(End of rant.)

DAS

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"David Haqeman" > wrote in message
om...
> "Dave Plowman (News)" > wrote in message
> >...
>> In article >,
>> Dan Drake > wrote:
>> > My point is that I prefer to use it - and wash the crap off it
>> > periodically, which includes running it through those nasty ol' whirly
>> > brush car washes.
>>
>> Perhaps I'm too sensitive, but I'd rather leave it until I get time to
>> wash it by hand than put up with those horrid swirly scratches.
>> But I enjoy washing a car. Until I notice the latest car park ding. I
>> then weep. ;-)
>
> Last month the guys at the front of the carwash...whose job is to
> power wash the brake dust off the wheels...use plastic brushes on mop
> handles after applying a chemical of sorts.
>
> They nonchantly dip the brush head into a tub of solution and BRUSH
> THE HOOD AND LOWER DOORS NEAR THE ROCKER PANELS....after using it on
> the wheels!
>
> I went ballistic...and sure enough, I have left to right hairline
> scratches on the hood (bonnet).
>
> Dumbasses!
>
> David H.

On 11 Nov 2004 19:11:00 GMT, (KoKaineBoy) wrote:

>No... Not Bull. Any car wash that has a brush or soft cloth touch the car
>will scrape the paint all to ****. If you give me $5 I'll take an old dirty
>rag or some 2000grit sandpaper and scrape it up just as good! I'm even
>skeptical to run my car through a touchless wash where the jets of water blast
>the dirt against the paint.
>
>I'll stick with handwashes even in -15 weather!

I use the manual car washes, with the "foamy brush", on my 323. Not
ideal, maybe, but I rinse the **** out of the brush, so I'm not
sand-papering my car with someone else's dirt, at least.

My Supra, on the other hand, only gets hand-washed. It's more of a
special car, and it's black.

"dizzy" > wrote in message
...
> On 11 Nov 2004 19:11:00 GMT, (KoKaineBoy) wrote:
>
> >No... Not Bull. Any car wash that has a brush or soft cloth touch the
car
> >will scrape the paint all to ****. If you give me $5 I'll take an old
dirty
> >rag or some 2000grit sandpaper and scrape it up just as good! I'm even
> >skeptical to run my car through a touchless wash where the jets of water
blast
> >the dirt against the paint.
> >
> >I'll stick with handwashes even in -15 weather!
>
> I use the manual car washes, with the "foamy brush", on my 323. Not
> ideal, maybe, but I rinse the **** out of the brush, so I'm not
> sand-papering my car with someone else's dirt, at least.

I wash mine in whatever way makes sense for my time, location and weather
conditions. Swirls and light scratches come out easily with a wax or other
product made to remove them. Using an orbital it takes less time than it
does to wash the car. So whenever I wax I also remove swirls and light
scratches. Piece of cake really. And I tend to wax frequently anyway.

It's a car..it gets scratched just being used...I'm not gonna get all anal
about how it's washed. I instead chose to deal with the aftermath of use and
wash. It's easier. Hand washing creates light scratches anyway.

In article >,
Ramone Cila > wrote:
> Hand washing creates light scratches anyway.

Not if you do it properly. ;-)

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"Ramone Cila" > wrote in message
news
>
> It's a car..it gets scratched just being used...I'm not gonna get all anal
> about how it's washed. I instead chose to deal with the aftermath of use
> and
> wash. It's easier. Hand washing creates light scratches anyway.

True, but there's more to it than than. I think you're just scratching the
surface.