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Do you know if the winch will destroy your power steering pump? Or is
this no issue> Matt |
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Very good report on the winch you have there ...
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> wrote in message
oups.com... > Do you know if the winch will destroy your power steering pump? Or is > this no issue> ive never known a pump to fail from adding a winch. the energy is there anyway, the winch just takes advantage of it. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
... > Nothing wrong with your server dude, your computer time and date are > just plain off. my date/time are both correct, i just checked it. i use xp pro that synchronizes its internal clock with microsoft. any problems with message times have to be server related as im currently showing 18:16MST 2/25/05 on my pc clock. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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"Nathan W. Collier" schrieb:
> > wrote in message > oups.com... > > Do you know if the winch will destroy your power steering pump? Or is > > this no issue> > > ive never known a pump to fail from adding a winch. the energy is there > anyway, the winch just takes advantage of it. Prolonged winching heats up the oil very rapidly since P/S pumps have almost no reservoir that may act as 'thermal buffer'. Real PTO hydraulics have at least 10 to 20l of hydraulic fluid that can buffer the heat and the tank may act as radiator as well. Dunno what the military's up to, but they won't work their winches long - and if they fail, who cares. I suggest to check out military strategies regarding the effective lifetime in battle when talking of the quality of military equipment. The seal 'military approved' isn't worth that much if you know about the details. Cheers, Axel |
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"Axel Hammer" > wrote in message
... > Prolonged winching heats up the oil very rapidly since P/S pumps have > almost > no reservoir that may act as 'thermal buffer'. what damage are you suggesting? i know of many situations on organized runs where a single p/s hyraulic winch pulled the entire party up hills to steep to climb with no damage. in fact, watching this first hand is what sold me on hydraulic winching to begin with. i was riding my ATV on ft. bragg and watched a hmmwv winch an entire convoy up a ravine. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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"Nathan W. Collier" schrieb:
> what damage are you suggesting? i know of many situations on organized runs > where a single p/s hyraulic winch pulled the entire party up hills to steep > to climb with no damage. in fact, watching this first hand is what sold me > on hydraulic winching to begin with. i was riding my ATV on ft. bragg and > watched a hmmwv winch an entire convoy up a ravine. Fading of the hydraulic power (that is, of the little power such a pump can provide compared to >>10kW up to 20kW a PTO provides), loss of lubrication, damaged pump a.s.o. Overheating effects in a wide variety, boiling oil, spilled oilŽ, failure of seals. The professional rallye drivers and recovery vehicle owners we equip would laugh at us for good reason if we'd suggest PS-driven hydraulics. A single belt as supplied in standard 4x4 vehicles CANNOT provide enough long-term mechanical power in excess of 2-3kW. A PTO can. Rgds, Axel |
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"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> > "Axel Hammer" > wrote in message > ... > > Prolonged winching heats up the oil very rapidly since P/S pumps have > > almost > > no reservoir that may act as 'thermal buffer'. > > what damage are you suggesting? i know of many situations on organized runs > where a single p/s hyraulic winch pulled the entire party up hills to steep > to climb with no damage. in fact, watching this first hand is what sold me > on hydraulic winching to begin with. i was riding my ATV on ft. bragg and > watched a hmmwv winch an entire convoy up a ravine. > > -- > Nathan W. Collier > http://7SlotGrille.com > http://UtilityOffRoad.com On that note alone I for one am sure glad I was given an electric winch.... Man to be the sucker/fool/idiot who stands at the top and 'has' to help everyone up is sure not my idea of a fun off road trip. ;-) Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
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"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
... > Man to be the sucker/fool/idiot who stands at the top and 'has' to help > everyone up is sure not my idea of a fun off road trip. > ;-) heh. i dont mind it really. ive been "lead dog" in those situations when wheeling with my buddys just because i had the hydraulic winch. its not to bad so long as youre sitting on your bumper sipping a cold one while some other sucker is running the cable back down. :-) that said, ill take it up another level. i think that its irresponsible of anyone to wheel without their own recovery gear. it doesnt have to be a hydraulic winch or an electric winch. it can be a come-along or highlift with enough straps but have _something_ to keep from being a burden on those around you. theres just no excuse for not having some type of recovery gear on board, you cant afford to off road without it. ive happened across some in the past who were stuck that didnt have any recovery gear at all, and not a clue what they were going to do and they were totally at my mercy and good graces. its really sad when its a family out wheeling with small children and not so much as even a cell phone/cb radio. -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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