And:
Publishers profit from sales, developers don't. So, in order to get what
we want, we would want independant developers making a magnificent sim,
then taking it to the publisher in order to get it to the shelves.

I have always said that 'profit' ruin everything, unless you're amongst
the majority making grounds for the profit. In order to get the sim we
want, there shouldn't be *any* kind of profit *anywhere* in the process. :-)

So, what is the best development environment for the sims *we* want?
Open source, open development, open testing. Sourceforge would be a
great place to start. The problem arises when a team decides to go
black, shut down web pages, and start charging for the code everybody
has developed.

---Asgeir---

Jussi Koukku wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:49:50 +0200, "Jussi" > wrote
> something like:
>
>
>>I think I have to download the pirate version of german game. I want to play
>>it now, not 2005!
>
>
> I wanted to play it now too, but instead of stealing it, I bought it
> from amazon.de. Should be here in 5 - 9 working days. Cost me 5EUR
> more than the listed price at playerone.fi.
>
>
>>There is no sense from developer to publish the german version first. When
>>the english version come out I will buy it but I think many people will not
>>becouse of this stupid realease politic.
>
>
> Developers don't publish games, publishers do. And AFAIK Simbin
> doesn't even have a worldwide publisher yet. 10tacel (german
> publisher) decided to publish the german version of the game earlier
> as it won't hurt the later sales of the english version. Germany is a
> rather large market are, and apparently racing games sell very well
> over there. So it makes perfect sense to publish GTR in Germany soon
> as possible. I don't like it any more than you do, but it still makes
> sense...
>
> BTW, if they would've signed a publisher well in advance, the game
> might have been in the shops earlier, but it might have been totally
> different kind of game (console, all arcade... in worst case
> scenario). What I'm trying to say is that publishers usually have
> quite a lot to say in game development, and the way Simbin chose to
> make GTR (independently) was IMO a good way.
> --
> - Jussi Koukku -