Have you priced new rotors? They are a basic DIY job to put on and cost
$89.00 ea. locally.

Mike

Fred wrote:
>
> I had the tires rotated at 12,000 miles by the dealer, nothing else has been
> done to the vehicle. I feel that the rotors should not wear or warp at
> 18,000 miles, and is it necessary to have them turned on the vehicle, or are
> they just trying to get me to have the dealer do the job?
>
> Fred
>
> "Earle Horton" > wrote in message
> om...
> >I have 80,000 miles on the brakes on my 1995 Wrangler, with no work
> > performed on them except for an occasional fluid flush and inspection of
> > the
> > front pads and the rear shoes. Your theory makes some sense. In 18,231
> > miles the OP maybe had the tires rotated once, enough to get the rotors
> > warped if they used an impact wrench.
> >
> > Fred, what work have you had done on the vehicle previously?
> > Specifically,
> > have you had the wheels taken off before, and why?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> It would appear it is a really common scam the $tealerships are pulling
> >> these days.
> >>
> >> They use an impact gun to install the tires and the rotors warp. They
> >> then sucker you for a turn and use the impact gun again on the tires so
> >> the turn doesn't last at all. They are 'supposed' to finish tightening
> >> the wheels by hand with a torque wrench so the lugs push evenly on the
> >> rotors.
> >>
> >> If you go into their shop, I will bet you will see the so called 'techs'
> >> just hammering wheels on with no torque wrench to be seen.
> >>
> >> Even if they claim they use 'torque sticks' on their gun, these are not
> >> accurate enough to prevent warpage. New out of the box, those sticks
> >> are still +/- something like 15% which can make a 30 ft lb up or down
> >> difference at 100 ft lb of torque.
> >>
> >> Half the time, rather than replace, the rotors get turned under
> >> warranty, then they hammer the wheels back on and the next one is a
> >> replacement just after the warranty is up.
> >>
> >> Mike
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> >>
> >> Fred wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I have a 2004 Jeep Liberty that I purchased brand new in November of
> > 2003.
> >> > I have 18,231 miles on it and the brake rotors are bad. The dealer
> >> > told
> > me
> >> > that they need to be turned. I was not happy with the fact that it was
> > not
> >> > covered under their 3 year or 36,000 mile warranty. I told them I
> >> > would
> >> > take it somewhere else to have the rotors turned because their price
> >> > was
> >> > ridiculous. The Service Manager told me that I should make sure that
> > the
> >> > rotors were turned on the vehicle because that is the only way they are
> >> > supposed to be done on the Jeep Liberty. Has anyone else had this
> > problem
> >> > with only 18,000 miles on their Jeep and is it true that the rotors
> >> > have
> > to
> >> > be turned on the vehicle? Thanks for any comments on this problem.
> >
> >