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Old June 7th 05, 11:26 PM
Brent P
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In article >, Jim Yanik wrote:
> (Brent P) wrote in
> :
>
>> In article >, Jim Yanik
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess this proves *you* can't admit when you're wrong.
>>>
>>> Auto license plate yearly fees ARE a USER tax or fee.

>>
>> I repeat.
>>
>> 1) you are all ****ed off there is no specificly labeled tax on
>> bicycling that is paid every year to use the roads.

>
> No,I merely note that bicycles as vehicles do not pay any usage fee as all
> road-using motor vehicles pay.
> You guys are the ones that get ****ed when I mention your exception.


I pay all sorts of taxes. Call any one of them you'd like a usage fee,
just like you do with motor vehicles.

>> 2) You declare a tax that is not labeled a motor vehicle road usage
>> tax and call it one.


> Are you so blind you cannot see? (no,just dishonest)


There is no such labeled fee. And that's what you are hung up on. Taxes
are paid that more than cover bicycle use, and you are hung up on the
lack of a label.

> People PAY a FEE to the State (IOW,a tax) -EVERY year- for LICENSE to
> operate (USE) each specific vehicle on public roads.
> Thus a USAGE fee or tax.
> (This is separate from a driver's license,and it's fees.)


Try to redefine it any way you want, but that's not how it's defined in
the state of IL.

(625 ILCS 5/1.171) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 1.171)
Sec. 1.171. Registration . Registration Sticker. Registration. The
registration certificate or certificates, registration plates and
registration stickers issued under the laws of this State pertaining to
the registration of vehicles.
Registration Sticker or Stickers. A device or devices to be attached
to a rear registration plate that will renew the registration and
registration plate or plates for a pre.determined period not to exceed
one registration year except as provided in subsection (1) of Section
3.414 of this Code. Should the Secretary of State determine it is
advisable to require a registration sticker to be attached to a front
registration plate, he may require such action and provide the necessary
additional sticker. Such determination shall be publicly announced at
least 30 days in advance of a new annual registration year.
(Source: P.A. 80.1185.)

Where does 'user fee' come in? I didn't fine it in the registration
section either. All there is, is your interpetation.

> No pay,your plates are invalid,and you are using illegally.
> All 50 states require license plates for motor vehicles,BTW,that must pay a
> fee(tax) YEARLY or in some special cases more than 1 year.


So complain to someone living in a state where it's defined as a road
usage fee.

> Your semantics game has failed.


You started it, and you're still wrong. I'll rename the cook county TB
sanitiarium tax the 'bicycle road usage tax'. Now every one in cook
county IL pays to use a bicycle on the roads. Same thing you're doing.
It's your interpetation of 'registration' but it's not.


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