C.H. wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:29:42 -0700, N8N wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > C.H. wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:44:23 -0700, N8N wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > C.H. wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 22:45:25 -0400, Nate Nagel wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Depends on the car. In some vehicles, I'm CERTAIN that I could
> >> >> > "beat" the ABS.
> >> >>
> >> >> In certain vehicles in a non-emergency situation with about equal
> >> >> friction on all wheels in a straight line I think you may be right.
> >> >> Otherwise you are very likely wrong.
> >> >
> >> > No, ESPECIALLY when there's unequal friction.
> >>
> >> Explain.
> >
> > No.
>
> Because you can't, not because you are afraid I won
>
> > You won't get it and will just come up with more bull****, and then
> > accuse me of being "rude."
>
> You just called me dumbass for not sharing your opinion in another
> posting, that _is_ rude, which is why me calling you rude is not an
> accusation but the truth.

Because you're acting like a dumbass. If the foo ****s...

>
> Quite frankly, if you don't understand the
> > statement I posted, you won't understand my explanation either. If that's
> > "rude" then so be it.
>
> OK, as you are incapable of explaining why supposedly your view is true I
> will explain to you why it is wrong:
>
> As long as there is equal friction on all four wheels and you are
> braking in a straight line you can brake close to the traction limit of
> your tires, possibly closer than ABS can.
>
> As soon as the traction becomes unequal between tires you have to reduce
> your brake force so far that the tire with the weakest friction does not
> break loose, especially if you are not braking in a straight line. ABS on
> the other hand does not have this restriction and brakes every wheel to
> _its_ traction limit, which produces significantly shorter stopping
> distances, especially when you have to brake in a curve, where the lateral
> forces on your wheels are unequal to begin with.
>
> IOW under ideal conditions you may be able to outbrake ABS, in real world
> conditions you are not.
>
> Chris

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I really hate to have to play the
"qualifications" card, but I used to work with this stuff every day and
I think I have a little better understanding of how it works than you
do.

nate