Keep the '04 GC.

"Jack Carter" > wrote in message
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| Well, I drove one yesterday. And, counting me, there were four people in it.
| It felt good. I think my GC would give it some competetion up to about 50.
| Just out of curiosity, I asked them how much to trade. My GC is an '04
| Limited with 3K miles on it, has all of the options except GPS and
| window-stickered for close to $39K. The RT had a window sticker of $33K
| even. Are you ready??! They'd "put me in it" for a mere $10K difference!!!!
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| "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
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| > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
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| > > I used to do a LOT of drag racing myself at local strips. One of the
| road
| > > tests I recently read for the RT quoted a 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds. (The
| > > writer said it seemed "sluggish" coming off the line and that there were
| > > times when it didn't feel like it had 340hp.) But I just got a Road &
| Track
| > > that says 6.1. Don't know who to believe. I'm going to drive one this
| > > afternoon so I'll have a better idea of how it might run after that.
| >
| > What source do you have for the 7.1 second 0-60? I would really like to
| > read about that. Every review I have read online have put the 0-60 from
| > 6.0 to 6.3, but nothing slower. Granted I have only read a dozen or so
| > reviews.
| >
| > I have gotten some good data about the torque curve of the engine as well
| > as the gear ratios in the transmission, and have run some numbers using
| > Desktop Dyno and Desktop Dragstrip and it gave similar results as to what
| > the reviews I have read said. Of course, I don't have all the variables,
| > and the software has a tendancy to be a bit "optimistic" if you don't know
| > how to set it up... but it predicted a 14.6 @ 97 MPH quarter mile out of a
| > stock RWD Dodge Magnum.
| >
| > Again, this is very unscientific, and making a lot of assumptions, but I
| > would believe it, on a good day, it could do that.
| >
| > Still, a very sharp looking car!
| >
| > Thanks!
| > Wicked96SS
| >
| > > "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
| > > ...
| > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
| > > >
| > > > > I don't know where you got your GC weight figure but it sounds far
| too
| > > high!
| > > > > I have an '04 GC with the HO V8 and have tested it several times
| with a
| > > > > G-Tech Pro performance meter. It breaks seven seconds from 0-60
| > > > > consistently. The GC seems to have a very high RPM stall torque
| > > converter
| > > > > and, as a result, really flies off the line. I'm getting faster
| times
| > > from
| > > > > my '04 that the 5.7 liter 98 that I used to have.
| > > >
| > > > It may sound high, but I saw that figure on several websites, and
| Edmunds
| > > > has the vehicle listed at 6100 pounds.
| > > >
| > > > As for sub 7 second 0-60, that is impressive for an SUV! But I have
| also
| > > > read several
| > > > instances whre 0-60's in the Dodge Magnum RT were 6.1 seconds, with a
| 14.6
| > > > second quarter mile. As a drag racer, to put it in perspective, at
| those
| > > > times and speeds, .9 seconds difference (assuming that the Jeep could
| keep
| > > > up) is about 9 car lengths, substancially faster.
| > > >
| > > > Again, I would really like to see some actual numbers, and not just
| > > > guessing on what the AWD RT would do... I have a feeling it would be
| > > > slightly faster than the Jeep.... although I don't have any facts to
| back
| > > > this up.
| > > >
| > > > Thanks!
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| > > > > "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
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| > > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
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| > > > > > > From what I've read, anyone who owns an 04 Grand Cherokee with
| the
| > > HO V8
| > > > > > > (AWD) probably won't take a back seat to an RT AWD in a 0-60
| run.
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| > > > > > > "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
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| > > > > > > > Does anybody know what the performance numbers are for the RT
| AWD?
| > > I
| > > > > have
| > > > > > > > found several sources for the RWD version, but I am interested
| in
| > > the
| > > > > AWD
| > > > > > > > version, and thought there might (probably) be some parasitic
| loss
| > > > > from
| > > > > > > > the AWD system.
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > Either way, if anybody has some 0-60 or 1/4mile times and
| speeds,
| > > it
| > > > > would
| > > > > > > > be greatly appreciated.
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > Thanks!
| > > > > > > > Wicked96SS
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Do you have any numbers to back that up? I did a little research,
| and
| > > the
| > > > > > Magnum as a higher rear end ratio, more power, more torque, and
| weighs
| > > > > > less... I woudl assume that even the AWD version would be
| considerably
| > > > > > faster than the Grand Cherokee...
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Grand Cherokee:
| > > > > > HP: 265 @ 5100 RPMs
| > > > > > TQ: 325 @ 3600 RPMs
| > > > > > WEIGHT: 5150 lbs.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Dodge Magnum:
| > > > > > HP: 340 @ 5000 RPMs
| > > > > > TQ: 390 @ 4000 RPMs
| > > > > > WEIGHT: 4393 lbs.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Just curious!
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| > > > > > Thanks!
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