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Old June 30th 05, 09:29 PM
Art
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You responded to the wrong post in the thread but in any case, any survey
that says GM and Ford are near the top in 3 year reliability is screwed up.


> wrote in message
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> Apparently you did not read that survey. It was of the
> experiences of owner on THREE YEAR OLD vehicles. J D Powers does
> another survey of new vehicles of owners perceptions of their
> vehicle after 90 day. NOBODY ever said all manufactures make a
> perfect one every time. On average EVERY manufacture makes at
> least 1% up to 2% that are defective, that is why they all have a
> warranty. The fact is you are far more likely to a get one of
> 98% that are good from ANY manufacture than you are of getting
> one of the 2% that prove to be problematic from ANY manufacture.
> Since that is a given why not chose the one that best suits your
> particular needs and budget rather then betting 20% to 30% more
> in the hope you will not get one of the bad ones? That survey
> concluded that GM Ford and Toyota has the best vehicles in the
> survey, but only because it was not listed as percentages.
>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
>
> Art wrote:
>>
>> If you want a souped up Charger, wait a while. A bigger V8 is on its
>> way.
>>
>> "Dan J.S." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> The just goes to show how closely cars are rated today for build
>> >> quality by their owners. The best has a rate 1.39 defects per
>> >> car and the worst 3.97 and the average of only 2.37. If one
>> >> subscribes to J D Powers service they would see the failures are
>> >> mostly minor in nature, such as squeaks and rattles
>> >>
>> >> Looks much different when presented as a list than if shown, as
>> >> it should be, as a percentage of failures. The best as just over
>> >> 98% trouble free, the average just under 98% trouble free, and
>> >> the worst as just under 97% trouble free. That is what we see
>> >> in our business, as well.
>> >>
>> >> All manufactures are building good vehicles today that will
>> >> easily run to 200K, trouble free, if given the proper preventive
>> >> maintenance. The only real difference among them is style and
>> >> price. Your chance of getting a good one are basically 8 out of
>> >> 9. The change of getting one not up to snuff is minor 1% to 2%
>> >> since they all have a failure rate of at least 1%, that is why
>> >> they all offer a warranty.
>> >>
>> >> Why some will spend 20% or 30% more to buy a comparable vehicle,
>> >> of a certain brand over another, just in the hope that the ONE
>> >> they get is not one of the 1% to 2%, always seemed like extremely
>> >> poor gambling odds to me
>> >
>> >
>> > But there are other issues. For example, a friend just bought a 2005
>> > Corvette. He drove me to a business meeting a few miles away. I own a
>> > 4runner. When he started the vette, it ran rough, and it took 10
>> > minutes
>> > for the car's AC to cool it down. In my 4runner, the engine runs so
>> > that I
>> > don't even feel it on, and the AC cools it down in a matter of 2
>> > minutes.
>> > So there are still design issues that are still huge. I am thinking
>> > about
>> > buying the Dodge Charger - and then souping it up. I really hope
>> > quality
>> > is getting that good... we will see..
>> >



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