On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 18:35:12 GMT, Dave Head > wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:20:03 -0700, Big Bill > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:43:21 GMT, Dave Head > wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 17:35:52 GMT, "truckinsp" <truckinsp@ nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I suggest telling me where I supposedly am wrong instead of whining about
>>>>>'social irresponsibility'. You can't? Too bad.
>>>>
>>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>YAAWWNN.....again a TOTALLY predictable post......you are pretty much what
>>>>is wrong with your type of poster.....no ability to analyze facts, no
>>>>intelligence to convince others you have a valid viewpoint....no creativity
>>>>to make you even worth bothering with.......
>>>
>>>He analyzed the facts just fine. The autobahn operates at a much higher speed
>>>than American Interstate highways and has a lower death rate. You're the one
>>>that isn't doing any analysis, and is just making "noise"...
>>
>>You can't seriously believe that the higher speed limit it=s the
>>deciding factor here, can you?
>
>Yeah - the insanely low speed limits in this country cause a speed differential
>between those that are petrified that they'll get a ticket and those that are
>driving a reasonable speed. The speed differential causes the accidents.

Well, I'm sorry to be one of the people to tell you this, but you're
just wrong.
The speed differential exists on the autobahns, too, so there goes
that theory.
>
>Plus, the high speeds on the autobahn keep the people that are clueless off of
>it entirely - they're scared.

Right. I suppose you have something to lend weight to this?
>
>And, as was shown by the Montana experience, where they eliminated their speed
>limit, people tend to fasten their seat belt when they know that theyre going
>to cruise at 90+, or someone close to them is. Their deathrates didn't
>skyrocket as the hand-wringers predicted, either.

The carnage that was predicted when the national 55 limit was lifted
didn;t happen. Yet, the carnage continues unabated.
Discuss this in 500 words or less.
>
>>>Fact is, the low speed limits are mostly for the purpose of raising revenue,
>>>and are a widespread form of government corruption in the USA.
>>
>>And all those other drivers out there are who you want to be going 90+
>>with?
>
>Back in the old days the Kansas turnpike was posted at 80, and a whole pile of
>people were 90+. Didn't bother me a bit.

Wow! I'm really glad to hear that. Are you somehow representative of
all drivers out there? Even the ones who don't know what they're
doing?
>
>>They are barely safe at the limits we have now.
>
>BS. That's the Nanny-state talking. Everybody's an idiot. We're gonna save
>you from everything, everywhere, all the time. BS, I say.

Well, let's hear you actually address the facts that there are a *LOT*
of **** poor drivers out there.
You want to just let them drive faster?
>
>>Higher limits won't
>>make them any safer, they will only make them worse.
>
>Michigan's death rate went down when they returned from 55 mph to, I think, 70
>due mostly to the lessening of the speed differential, probably with a dose of
>"crashed while bored to death" thrown in. This was repeated in other states
>with either a lowering of the death rate or a failure of the death rate to go
>up. The handwringers always came out with statistics to the contrary, but when
>examined, the stats were always something like "raw death" without taking into
>account the increased miles being driven every year. Etc. etc.

Yet the carnage continues.
>
>The hand-wringers are almost always wrong - environmental handwringers want to
>bankrupt the country by sending all our money to the F'in Arabs when we could
>divert some of it to the good people in the ANWR oil fields in Alaska, the
>global warming handwringers want to totally destroy our economy by eliminating
>most of our driving and most of our electrical generation, throwing people into
>a permanent "camping at home" due to rolling blackouts to save electricity -
>there's a handwringer for every purpose that have in common doing the wrong
>thing in reaction to a perceived and generally false threat.

So who's killing the people on our roads? The F'in Arabs? The global
warming handwringers?
Wake up. IT'S THE BAD DRIVERS WHOM YOU WANT TO LET GO FASTER.
Maybe, if you oisten, you'll understand why the autobahns are safer,
but I doubt it. You don't want to understand, you just want to go
faster. It evidently hasn't occured to you that the drivers there are
different from the drivers here. The government looks at driving
different, and is, actually, a lot more nanny-like than here. And the
autobahn is safer for it.
MAke of that what you will, but at least think about it.
>
>Dave Head
>>>
>>>Dave Head
>>>>

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