"Coasty" > wrote in message
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> Must be Sterns bitch enough said!
>
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> Coasty
> SEMPAR PARATUS
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> "aarcuda69062" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Coasty" > wrote:
> >
> >> "aarcuda69062" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > In article >,
> >> > "maxpower" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Don't waste your time on him, Its an ego thing that he has. Do like
> >> >> most
> >> >> people do here and that is to ignore his stupidity
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps you'd like to point out specifically where Daniel is in
> >> > error.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> He was wrong in several areas, EPA however has approved Freeze12 as a
> >> replacement along with several others see link
> >> http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrig...sts/mvacs.html
> >
> > Daniel never made any sort of claim that Freeze 12 wasn't on the
> > SNAP list.
> > If you can bring up a post of his to the contrary, I'd love to
> > see it.
> >
> >> Yes EPA certification can be gained rather easily from many sources,
> >> which
> >> highlights all the rules nothing about repair and maintenance of
systems.
> >
> > I'm not sure what this has to do with the price of tea in China.
> > Given all the classes you claim to have attended, I find it
> > surprising that it hasn't occurred to you that the EPA is in the
> > business of enforcing environmental policy, not how to repair an
> > automobile.
> >
> >> In the state where I live I hold a Masters HVAC license and Stern just
> >> really
> >> does not have any practical knowledge.
> >
> > Well, I've known him for at least eight years, and I disagree.
> >
> >> Also, where I live it is illegal to
> >> buy R12 and transport into the State if you get caught you can lose
> >> everything.
> >
> > Since R-12 isn't illegal and there is none being manufactured in
> > the United States and thusly, your state, the question is; how do
> > the wholesalers get R-12 into your state for legitimate re-sale
> > without "losing everything?"
> >
> >> Many States have their own environmental laws that tighten up
> >> the Federal EPA laws that is why R12 is so expensive here if you buy it
> >> legally.
> >
> > Yes, I believe I'd already cited examples to that effect in my
> > reply to Bill Putney.
> >
> >> As said before, I show mine if he shows his and if I was a betting man
he
> >> is
> >> not EPA certified or has a Master HVAC license.
> >
> > You'd lose that bet.
> >
> >> Also, I attend refresher EPA training every two years to keep up on the
> >> changing laws. One call to the EPA hot line for doing something wrong
> >> could
> >> ruin a person and company. It is a $10k fine for each occurrence and
> >> they
> >> list their violators so in many cases the days of the shade tree HVAC
do
> >> it
> >> yourself are gone, unless you want to risk fines or jail.
> >
> > ISTR reading this somewhere else...
> >
> >
> >> Recently I was at a local land fill where people just toss their AC
units
> >> refrigerators into a box for scrap, there were over 55 items in the
bin,
> >> 55x
> >> $10k is a lot of
> >> money that could be mine for a free call. I contacted the head of the
> >> Counties waste management and pointed out the error of their ways. Two
> >> days
> >> later they asked me to bid on the recovery of the units, and I refused
> >> because of implications. Now the County has one of the HVAC mechanics
> >> recovering everything that comes in as per the EPA.
> >
> > So?
> >
> >> People treat the law as non-applicable to themselves until they get
> >> caught
> >> then it is everyone else's fault and people who say it is ok to do so
> >> perpetuate the situation. I also belong to several National
Organizations
> >> which continuously keep up on the changing laws, and HVAC equipment
> >> maintenance and repair.
> >
> > Then you should appreciate Daniel's comments since he has been
> > citing chapter and verse the fact that there is no such thing as
> > a "drop in replacement" for R-12.
> >
> >> It is easy to read something and interpret some information that is
only
> >> 1/3
> >> of the equation practical knowledge is the other 2/3 of the equation.
> >
> > You -do- realize that this is usenet, don't you?
> > I suppose somewhere in the future there will be three dimensional
> > computer monitors and forums such as this will allow a
> > realization of that other "2/3 of the equation."
>
>
LOL Bingo!!!