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Old November 20th 04, 10:33 AM
Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Treeline" > wrote in message
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> Read about that wire #49, so thanks, not my problem.
> Have found thanks to Daniel Stern, some yards that have it for
> $25 to $35 and may be near me in case I do not use my original
> one. Tempted to have the dealer do the flashing and resetting the
> computer but found the method in allpar or somewhere else for
> resetting the TCM after the upgrade. Maybe the main computer too?
>


Resetting the TCM and flash-updating it are two different things.

> Thanks, found it, see the fins and checked the TSB's and the part
> number and it's flashable.
>
> R4686478AA 04686606 93-94 A,C,J,P,S,Y 3.0, 3.3 & 3.8
> from the TSB, above is the remanufactured part and software
> upgrade from the dealer. I have the "S" Voyager model which
> probabl is the "AS" model in 1995 that you recommended for the
> TCM.
>
> 4686131 was the original part number but I can't read it.
> Probably on the metal tag and I don't want to take it off the
> firewall just yet.
>


Don't. Let the dealer do that if they need to when you have them
flash-update it.

>
> > http://www.allpar.com/eek/atf.html

> Thanks, so a flush using the transmission pump I gather would be
> just fine, instead of the power flush.
>


Yes.

> They probably thought I meant the reverse power flush only. They
> could have mentioned the ordinary flush. It's similar to their
> fluid change which uses the tranny's pump. I just want the fluid
> out of there. Okay the torque converter is sealed but still.
>


No the torque converter is not sealed. Fluid is pumped into and
out of it. If it was sealed the fluid inside it would overheat.

> Hmmm, thinking, if I push the OD button and disconnect the
> OverDrive, might that help the torque converter by disconnecting
> the lockup?


No. Don't do that.

>
> That's very helpful. Dealer said not necessary if 30,000 miles.
> But this is a rebuilt and questionable and probably worth the
> extra expense.
>


You probably have Dexron+Lubeguard not ATF+3 in there.

>
> > The method I documented on the website above gets all of the

> fluid.
>
> Even the torque converter too?


Yes.

>
> But it's Cottman, so my confidence is low having seen how they
> charged the previous owner at least $2700 and that owner, my
> friend, was still most unhappy with the performance of the van.
> Rebuilt in 2000 but not leaking, still don't like some of the
> feel and subtle sounds of the tranny. So have been babying the
> car. There's the slight shudder at 37 mph and at 70 mph, hear a
> slight whine. Does not sound quite normal. Now I have had
> Chrysler trannies that whined for 130,000 miles. I drove Chrysler
> trannies that ran dry, DRY!, put in fluid, and the thing was up
> and running so in the past, they built stuff that was tanklike.
> Everything else came apart, the body, the electrical system,
> everything but loved those slant-6's and their trannies.
>


Look again at how much space they had to work with. The
FWD layout is not optimal. The trans is crammed into the
engine compartment. I'm all for newer materials and such
but there' s no substitute for meaty, beefy, thick components.
And there is no space for that in a FWD. So, they try to
get around the lack of space by making everything thinner
out of fancy materials. Sometimes it works, other times
it don't.

Ted


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