Thats 100k miles not 11k. sorry.
"Nocares" > wrote in message
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> My 87 Saleen has been stripped of the cats in favor of a 2.5" & true
> headers. Though it is a summer driver it has finally hit the 11k miles
> mark and I still pass the emissions with no problem. A car properly tuned
> and maintained will create less 'smog' than most lawnmowers. Oh, and as
> far as evil bad air-poluters how about a cudos to Mt St helens which in
> this past week has speewed out more carbon dioxide than all of WA
> industries have the entire year (or liekly more). And how about that blow
> in 1980... The amount of CO into the air on that big blow in one day was
> greater than all the factories in the US producing at maximum capacity did
> throughout the 1970s..yes, the entire decade. Amazing or not, the world
> has managed to survive and clean itself. End note: Greenhouse gases are
> overrated, ozone is overrated and unsubstantiated, and frankly the world
> could use a few extra degrees to increase the growing season to help feed
> all the 'extra' people. What would a good evil regime dictator do without
> the mases to enslave and decapitate or starve.
>
> Oh, as far as the cats, not sure what part of the power band is affected
> but I am certain that the better breathing can only be better for power
> and efficiency. I have plenty of power but now I just need to replace my
> clutch that finally burned off.
>
> "Brad and Mia" > wrote in message
> news:Zxvqd.362493$Pl.293562@pd7tw1no...
>> Are you kidding us?
>>
>> For the record, my Fox has no cats. Why? It's a summer weekend car and
>> there are no requirements for them where I live. and I don't have the
>> money to buy these great exhaust systems. Everything back from the
>> exhaust manifold on my car is used.
>>
>> My daily driver is a 1980 Bronco and it is LOADED with emissions crap. A
>> 351M churns out a whopping 136 horse. NO ****. So be it.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> "Wound Up" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I drive my 67 without a single solitary emissions control on it about 75%
>>>of the time from Mar - Nov. The state doesn't emissions tests for
>>>vehicles past 30 years old. When I used to have to take it in, it was
>>>within given limits.
>>>
>>> The manufacture of one new vehicle creates more environmental pollution
>>> than my 67 would in 100,000 miles. Let's not forget all the new OEM
>>> parts that have to be manufactured, the vastly increased complexity and
>>> therefore increased number of (new) parts required for an average
>>> repair, and the fact the vehicle's average lifespan is most likely less
>>> than the lifespan of mine in terms of miles to begin with.
>>>
>>> A gas-electric or diesel-electric hybrid is a freaking environmental
>>> disaster, ironically enough. Think of all that newly developed
>>> expensive hardware, requiring new factory tooling, millions of hours of
>>> training, new tools, new everything, and it's sold under the guise of
>>> "environmentally responsible automobile". It's not just the air that's
>>> befouled by all of this.
>>>
>>> Sure, there is a big curve of all of that at first, that -will- level
>>> off in time. But the world's automakers keep the innovations (a.k.a.
>>> marketing ploys) coming, ensuring that one big curve just follows the
>>> next.
>>>
>>> So what's the problem? Like most, I think you're just failing to see
>>> the big picture.
>>>
>>> For the record, I'm not siding with "Beverly", either.
>>>
>>> Jim Warman wrote:
>>>> No cats???? I hope we're not talking daily driver... This happens to be
>>>> my f*ckin air too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "BeverlyOmasta" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>>>It seems faster because its louder. The difference between a good set
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>cats and no cats is only a few horsepower and only at the high end..
>>>>>>nothing
>>>>>>you're going to feel. The downside is you're going to give up low end
>>>>>>torque that you CAN feel.
>>>>>
>>>>>Damn, i thought the h-pipe would give a bit more low end since thre is
>>>>>no
>>>>>cats....Oh well, i guess i learned my lesson.... Its just so many peopl
>>>>>i see
>>>>>have the off road pipes, i figured there was some good coming out of
>>>>>them....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wound Up J
>>>
>>> 1967 Mustang coupe, restored & modified
>>>
>>> Remove "put her" to reply in that bucket
>>>
>>
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