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Old July 17th 05, 11:35 AM
Dave Milne
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A coil spring waggy ! Wow.

Dave Milne, Scotland
91 Grand Waggoneer, 99 TJ

"Chip" > wrote in message
.. .
> In that case, I have a link for you. About 1/3 of the way down the page,
> you'll see the oil line kit installed.
> http://www.fullsizejeep.com/1024/p_engine.htm
>
> Chip
>
>
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> "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi Chip,
> > I not familiar with APP, nor any oil line kit for AMC's V8, would
> > you give an URL to check out.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >
> > Chip wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill,
> >> I do not really know the history of that engine. I'll never know what
> >> happened to the engine before it was installed in my jeep. The

original
> >> engine was a 304 and has probably been melted down to make fence posts.
> >> I
> >> do know that the terrible condition of the bearings (some of the cam
> >> bearings had buildup on the inside, bearing surface) had a great deal

to
> >> do
> >> with the bad oil pressure. I'm thinking that I should replace the

timing
> >> cover just to be on the safe side and install the oil line kit from APP
> >> in
> >> the block to help oil rear main. Does that seem to be the safe

appraoch,
> >> in
> >> your opinion?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Chip
> >>
> >> "L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Hi Chip,
> >> > If the 360" is sitting in a Real Jeep, you can say with one

hundred
> >> > percent assurances that it needs a new timing chain cover. Especially
> >> > when you tell us you have fifty instead of eighty pounds bypass cold
> >> > Idling and zero hot, means the bypass valve was whacked and stuck

fully
> >> > open. You may not see the damage from out side, unless some paint is
> >> > chipped away from the impact with the differential. Usually there's a
> >> > combination of things that let that happen, first you must do a jump
> >> > that'll fully compress your springs and be missing the bump stop on
> >> > that
> >> > side or have a weak engine mount on that side, but that is the reason
> >> > most of AMC's V8 have gone to Chevy.
> >> > I don't believe you need the distributor gear oiler modification,
> >> > again that is the bypass problem only this time it's stuck shut, and
> >> > the
> >> > gear is not strong enough to twist the shaft in two. You may see the
> >> > little piston valve at:

http://www.drivetrain.com/jeepengineparts.html
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >> >
> >> > WKJ wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> When I get my block back from the shop, I'm thinking about making a
> >> >> modification to it to assist in the engine oiling and oil pressure.
> >> >> Granted, the condition of the bearings did not help the situation

but,
> >> >> I
> >> >> do
> >> >> not want to have a freshly rebuilt engine and no oil pressure.

Before
> >> >> I
> >> >> pulled the thing, I had about 50lbs at startup and it went down to
> >> >> (almost)
> >> >> non-existant when it warmed up. I do not, however, know the

accuracy
> >> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> gage. There are two issues here 1) oiling the rear and front of the
> >> >> engine
> >> >> and 2) oil pressure due to warn timing cover.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've found a few pieces of information on how to handle problem #1,
> >> >> but
> >> >> it
> >> >> is not sufficient. In case not everyone is up on this subject, I've
> >> >> grabbed
> >> >> this bit of information from a Q&A on the 'net.
> >> >>
> >> >> 11) Engine Oiling:
> >> >> - AMC V8s tend to starve the rear crankshaft bearings and

distributor
> >> >> gears.
> >> >> The solution is to put a TIG welding tip into a oil gallery plug.
> >> >> TeamRush's
> >> >> instructions follow: I drilled the left (odd) bank lifter gallery

plug
> >> >> in
> >> >> the front at an angle directed at the fuel pump eccentric and the
> >> >> distributor gear. I threaded the plug, and screwed it back into the
> >> >> block,
> >> >> then screwed a 0.024" mig welder tip into it. When the oil pressure

is
> >> >> up,
> >> >> it sprays a continuous stream of oil on the top crankshaft gear.
> >> >>
> >> >> If this is the thing to do, I'd like to see a few pictures of the
> >> >> process,
> >> >> if they exist.
> >> >>
> >> >> For the rear main, I found a kit from American Performance Products
> >> >> that
> >> >> and
> >> >> I'm going to inquire about to see if I need to have the block

machined
> >> >> in
> >> >> a
> >> >> few locations before it get it back.
> >> >>
> >> >> For the pressure issue, it is recommended is to check the clearances
> >> >> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> timing cover/oil pump cover and either rebuild it or replace it.

I've
> >> >> rebuit the oil pump when I replaced the timing set, but some say

that
> >> >> is
> >> >> not
> >> >> enough. Not sure what to do here. I can check the clearance on the
> >> >> one
> >> >> that I have or should I just buy an aftermarket timing cover?
> >> >>
> >> >> Chip
> >> >>
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