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Old October 22nd 04, 10:42 PM
Jack Carter
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Well, I drove one yesterday. And, counting me, there were four people in it.
It felt good. I think my GC would give it some competetion up to about 50.
Just out of curiosity, I asked them how much to trade. My GC is an '04
Limited with 3K miles on it, has all of the options except GPS and
window-stickered for close to $39K. The RT had a window sticker of $33K
even. Are you ready??! They'd "put me in it" for a mere $10K difference!!!!



"Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
...
>
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
>
> > I used to do a LOT of drag racing myself at local strips. One of the

road
> > tests I recently read for the RT quoted a 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds. (The
> > writer said it seemed "sluggish" coming off the line and that there were
> > times when it didn't feel like it had 340hp.) But I just got a Road &

Track
> > that says 6.1. Don't know who to believe. I'm going to drive one this
> > afternoon so I'll have a better idea of how it might run after that.

>
> What source do you have for the 7.1 second 0-60? I would really like to
> read about that. Every review I have read online have put the 0-60 from
> 6.0 to 6.3, but nothing slower. Granted I have only read a dozen or so
> reviews.
>
> I have gotten some good data about the torque curve of the engine as well
> as the gear ratios in the transmission, and have run some numbers using
> Desktop Dyno and Desktop Dragstrip and it gave similar results as to what
> the reviews I have read said. Of course, I don't have all the variables,
> and the software has a tendancy to be a bit "optimistic" if you don't know
> how to set it up... but it predicted a 14.6 @ 97 MPH quarter mile out of a
> stock RWD Dodge Magnum.
>
> Again, this is very unscientific, and making a lot of assumptions, but I
> would believe it, on a good day, it could do that.
>
> Still, a very sharp looking car!
>
> Thanks!
> Wicked96SS
>
> > "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't know where you got your GC weight figure but it sounds far

too
> > high!
> > > > I have an '04 GC with the HO V8 and have tested it several times

with a
> > > > G-Tech Pro performance meter. It breaks seven seconds from 0-60
> > > > consistently. The GC seems to have a very high RPM stall torque

> > converter
> > > > and, as a result, really flies off the line. I'm getting faster

times
> > from
> > > > my '04 that the 5.7 liter 98 that I used to have.
> > >
> > > It may sound high, but I saw that figure on several websites, and

Edmunds
> > > has the vehicle listed at 6100 pounds.
> > >
> > > As for sub 7 second 0-60, that is impressive for an SUV! But I have

also
> > > read several
> > > instances whre 0-60's in the Dodge Magnum RT were 6.1 seconds, with a

14.6
> > > second quarter mile. As a drag racer, to put it in perspective, at

those
> > > times and speeds, .9 seconds difference (assuming that the Jeep could

keep
> > > up) is about 9 car lengths, substancially faster.
> > >
> > > Again, I would really like to see some actual numbers, and not just
> > > guessing on what the AWD RT would do... I have a feeling it would be
> > > slightly faster than the Jeep.... although I don't have any facts to

back
> > > this up.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From what I've read, anyone who owns an 04 Grand Cherokee with

the
> > HO V8
> > > > > > (AWD) probably won't take a back seat to an RT AWD in a 0-60

run.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Wicked96SS" > wrote in message
> > > > > >

...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anybody know what the performance numbers are for the RT

AWD?
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > > > found several sources for the RWD version, but I am interested

in
> > the
> > > > AWD
> > > > > > > version, and thought there might (probably) be some parasitic

loss
> > > > from
> > > > > > > the AWD system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Either way, if anybody has some 0-60 or 1/4mile times and

speeds,
> > it
> > > > would
> > > > > > > be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > Wicked96SS
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you have any numbers to back that up? I did a little research,

and
> > the
> > > > > Magnum as a higher rear end ratio, more power, more torque, and

weighs
> > > > > less... I woudl assume that even the AWD version would be

considerably
> > > > > faster than the Grand Cherokee...
> > > > >
> > > > > Grand Cherokee:
> > > > > HP: 265 @ 5100 RPMs
> > > > > TQ: 325 @ 3600 RPMs
> > > > > WEIGHT: 5150 lbs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dodge Magnum:
> > > > > HP: 340 @ 5000 RPMs
> > > > > TQ: 390 @ 4000 RPMs
> > > > > WEIGHT: 4393 lbs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just curious!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

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