Brent P wrote:
> Martin Brown wrote:

> > The scientific evidence is clear enough - we are making the planet
> > warmer by greenhouse gas emissions. Most sceptics now concede this point.
>
> It's anything but clear. There is data of cooling, data of warming, there
> is nothing that is clear. Two people can do the analysis of the same data
> and come to different conclusions.

Some years ago, a fellow from the University of East Anglia (IIRC) spoke
to an Institute of Physics branch meeting held in Manchester
University's Physics Department.

He showed a slide of temperatures going back over something like 300
years.

We looked at it and saw the sort of wiggly, more or less horizontal,
line that you would expect from fairly random fluctuations, possibly
influenced slightly by sun-spot cycles.

He looked at the last few years of the plot and asserted that it showed
the start of an exponential rise in temperature.

Had we not been a reasonably polite bunch we'd have been ROFL, as the
best simple fit would have been a horizontal straight line hand-drawn
with quite a wide paintbrush.

> At best one can say there is warming. At best.

> Global warming could also lead us into an -ICE AGE- because of the water
> additions from the ice caps.

So-called experts in the field seem to suggest "global warming" *or*
"global cooling" more or less at random, albeit perhaps with more
"warmers" than "coolers".