"Bill H" > wrote in message
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> maxpower wrote:
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> > "Bill H" > wrote in message
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> > > maxpower wrote:
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> > > > "Bill H" > wrote in message
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> > > > > I got a 94 Dodge Shadow, 2.2 liter that was running fine up till
> > > > > Friday. My mother parked the car, went in the store and when she
came
> > > > > out it would not start. Here are the symptoms:
> > > > >
> > > > > When you turn the key, the dash lights up and then turns off as it
> > > > > should when you turn the key, but no click of the soloniod or
noise
> > > > > from the starter. Tried jumping and a different battery and no
change.
> > > > > I turned on the headlights and then tried to start it, the lights
did
> > > > > not dim so it seems that the starter isn't drawing power.
> > > > >
> > > > > I replaced the starter with a new one and still get the same, no
> > > > > starter engaging and no cranking. I also replaced the Ignition
Time
> > > > > Delay Relay since that seemed to be the only thing in the fuse box
> > that
> > > > > had anything to do with starting the car (is there a fuse in thee
for
> > > > > the engine?)
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried starting it in neutral, thinking the shift sensor may have
a
> > > > > problem, no change.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > Ok you say she parked it, we don't know if its an automatic trans or
> > manual
> > > > trans. If it is an auto you may want to see if she hit a curb and
> > knocked
> > > > off the Neutral safety switch connector at the front of the trans.
> > > > Other then that you gotta start at the starter, check 12 volts at
the
> > back
> > > > of the starter (red wire) and as someone cranks the engine check 12
> > volts at
> > > > the brown solenoid wire.
> > > > If you were to make a quick test you can disconnect the starter
relay at
> > the
> > > > fender and jump the brown wire to battery battery voltage.
> > > >
> > > > Be careful doing this, make sure the vehicle is in park/neutral
> > emergency
> > > > brake on because it bypasses that safety switches.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Glenn Beasley
> > > > Chrysler Tech
> > >
> > > Thanks for answering. It is an automatic and it is possible that she
> > > hit it. Where she was parked is a low sidewalk instead of a curb. Just
> > > did a quick look and don't see anything knocked off, will have to look
> > > closer. Can the neutral switch be bypassed to check if it is damaged?
> > >
> > > I need to pick up a manual on this car showing the electronic
schematic
> > > (unless it is available online somewhere) so I can see what parts are
> > > involved in starting the car.
> > >
> > ummmmm... did you read the second part I wrote about by passing the
switch??
>
> Sorry - you mean the starter relay next to the battery will let me
> bypass the neutral switch?
>
yes one of them, that vehicle is 12 years old, I cant remember what other
relays are there. if you have no idea what im talking about I would not jump
it.

--
Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech