In article >,
"brink" > wrote:

> "Paul." > wrote in message
> th.net...
> > On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:46:32 -0400, small , said the following in
> > rec.autos.driving...
> >
> >> I'm in a new town. I don't feel comfortable turning right-on-red with
> >> the amount of traffic. Most of these types of intersections are marked
> >> "no right turn on red" where I'm from and it just seems bad to gun the
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> gas on red to save a few seconds. It would be too easy to miss a
> >> speeding car on a yellow light or a pedestrian. Lots of people speed
> >> here. Cars here beep at people that don't turn on red. How do I handle
> >> these beepers? If I don't feel comfortable, would it be a mistake to
> >> turn?
> >>
> >
> > If, as you say, the intersection is marked "no right turn on red," it
> > would be a big mistake to make the turn on a red light. Cause an
> > accident, you pay; cop sees you, get a ticket. If its not signed as such,
> > then IIRC, you are under no obligation to make the turn untill you get a
> > green light. Ignore the honkers.
>
> what's the legal definition of this phenomenon? say a driver in a right
> turn only lane is sitting at a red light, there's no one there except
> himself and the driver behind him. let's say it's late at night, so there's
> NO other traffic in ANY direction. they're sitting there for one... two
> minutes (let's say it's a poorly engineered intersection) and driver A could
> EASILY make a RH turn because there's really no danger of other cars at all.
> driver B is being clearly inconvenienced to the tune of two minutes because
> of driver A's timidity/stubbornness.
>
> is there any legal violation here? can an officer cite for obstructing flow
> or something else like that?
>
> just wondering...

The answer depends on state law. Check your state's DMV web site and
look up the information or call your nearest DMV branch to ask.