On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 09:05:01 GMT, Sparky > wrote:

>Big Bill wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 18:36:09 GMT, Sparky > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Big Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 00:30:32 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, indago wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>041108 2142 - Wound Up posted:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Homosexuality does not serve as an acceptable excuse for being the
>>>>>>>target of hatred
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, then, maybe derision???
>>>>>
>>>>>"Maybe"...? Y'think?
>>>>>
>>>>>Turn on your TV set during primetime any night of the week. Scarcely a
>>>>>sitcom episode goes by without they don't make clunky, hamhanded innuendo
>>>>>or outright laughtrack-enhanced punchlines at the expense of
>>>>>cardigan-wearing, mincing, oh-so-coiffed fag-stereotypes, and entire
>>>>>series are built on same, e.g. "Will and Grace" or "Queer Eye for the
>>>>>Straight Guy" or "Queer as Folk".
>>>>>
>>>>>One doesn't have to work very hard to imagine how black people felt when
>>>>>they saw such as "What's Happenin?" on television. Hollywood, for their
>>>>>part, is glibly contrite for years of making money off black stereotypes,
>>>>>but they evidently have zero problem doing the selfsame thing with gays
>>>>>right now, today.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gandhi said of social change: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule
>>>>>and denounce you, then they debate you, then you win."
>>>>>
>>>>>-DS
>>>>
>>>>There's a group that come in for much more derision than homosexuals
>>>>on TV - the white male.
>>>>All you need to do to see this is to watch sitcoms and advertisements.
>>>>The poor bumbling white guy is the butt of so many jokes it's obvious
>>>>to anyone who watches.
>>>>But it's OK, because, after all, they are just, well, there.
>>>
>>>Feeling sorry for yourself, BB?
>>>
>>>Adult white guys still seem to be running things across the USA.
>>
>> So you don't think what I say is right?
>> Have you watched TV lately?
>
>Some. I think you're confusing fiction with reality.

So you think they aren't making these shows and commercials?
*That* would be fiction.
The reality is that these shows and commercials *are* being made and
shown.
>
>Are you saying adult white guys *aren't* running things across the USA?

Where are you getting this? You* do* realize that, despite the
descrimination against them, gays are productive members of society,
don't you?
No where am I saying that white males aren't doing anything. I'm
saying they are being discriminated against.

Bill Funk
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