"incar-1" > wrote in message
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> "" wrote:
> > "maxpower" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Robbie and Laura Reynolds" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 93 Voyager with 3.3 engine. Within the past
> > couple of
> > weeks
> > > > > > the radiator fan has quit turning on, and the air
> > conditioner quit
> > > > > > working. They both quit at the same time as far as I
> > know. The AC
> > is
> > > > > > still fully charged, and all of the dashboard controls
> > work
> > including
> > > > > > the blower, etc. It's just that the clutch never
> > engages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got the trouble codes by turning the key, and it
> > gave me code 33,
> > > > > > which according to the manual is a short or open
> > condition in the AC
> > > > > > compressor clutch relay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does this relay control both the AC clutch and the
> > radiator fan?
> > > There
> > > > > > is only one fan, rather than one for the radiator and
> > one for the
> > AC.
> > > > > > So it makes sense in a way that a single fault could
> > disable both
> > the
> > > > > > radiator fan and the AC.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep. There is a relay for the radiator fan and a relay
> > for the A/C
> > > > > compressor clutch. They are interlinked such that the
> > compressor relay
> > > > > won't close unless the rad fan relay is closed. A single
> > fusible link
> > > > > feeds them both. You've got some diagnosis to do -- and
> > you'll need a
> > > > > factory service manual (not Haynes, not Chilton) to do
> > it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I also have a 93 Caravan with 3.0. It's a different
> > engine, but the
> > > > chassis wiring is the same as far as I know, and
> > everything on it
> > > > works. I can do the classic "switch parts until it works"
> > routine with
> > > > the other van. If I knew which relays and switches to
> > look at, I could
> > > > determine whether the fault is in the parts or in the
> > fusible links.
> > > > The problem is that it's hard to tell which ones are
> > which. Does
> > > > anybody here know off the top of their head which relays
> > to look at?
> > >
> > > Check the fusible links as I stated earlier, thats you you
> > want to start.
> > >
> >
> > Also, one other caution about fusible links, check the
> > connectors too. I
> > once had a fusible link on my Datsun go, and the link looked
> > perfectly
> > fine (wasn't all bubbly or burned insulation) the problem was
> > that
> > corrosion had got down and ruined the crimp connection from
> > the
> > wire that made up the link, to the plastic end connector on
> > the link.
> >
> > Ted
>
> If you don't have any luck finding the fan relay in the PDC (under
> bonnet fuse box) then your vehicle will have a solid state relay
> system......it's found on the nearside front chassis leg ( easy to
> find once you know it's there but a pig when you don't ! )
>
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Not so on that year vehicle!!