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Old July 19th 05, 11:36 PM
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"" wrote:
> "maxpower" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Robbie and Laura Reynolds" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Robbie and Laura Reynolds wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a 93 Voyager with 3.3 engine. Within the past

> couple of
> weeks
> > > > > the radiator fan has quit turning on, and the air

> conditioner quit
> > > > > working. They both quit at the same time as far as I

> know. The AC
> is
> > > > > still fully charged, and all of the dashboard controls

> work
> including
> > > > > the blower, etc. It's just that the clutch never

> engages.
> > > > >
> > > > > I got the trouble codes by turning the key, and it

> gave me code 33,
> > > > > which according to the manual is a short or open

> condition in the AC
> > > > > compressor clutch relay.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this relay control both the AC clutch and the

> radiator fan?
> > There
> > > > > is only one fan, rather than one for the radiator and

> one for the
> AC.
> > > > > So it makes sense in a way that a single fault could

> disable both
> the
> > > > > radiator fan and the AC.
> > > >
> > > > Yep. There is a relay for the radiator fan and a relay

> for the A/C
> > > > compressor clutch. They are interlinked such that the

> compressor relay
> > > > won't close unless the rad fan relay is closed. A single

> fusible link
> > > > feeds them both. You've got some diagnosis to do -- and

> you'll need a
> > > > factory service manual (not Haynes, not Chilton) to do

> it.
> > >
> > >
> > > I also have a 93 Caravan with 3.0. It's a different

> engine, but the
> > > chassis wiring is the same as far as I know, and

> everything on it
> > > works. I can do the classic "switch parts until it works"

> routine with
> > > the other van. If I knew which relays and switches to

> look at, I could
> > > determine whether the fault is in the parts or in the

> fusible links.
> > > The problem is that it's hard to tell which ones are

> which. Does
> > > anybody here know off the top of their head which relays

> to look at?
> >
> > Check the fusible links as I stated earlier, thats you you

> want to start.
> >

>
> Also, one other caution about fusible links, check the
> connectors too. I
> once had a fusible link on my Datsun go, and the link looked
> perfectly
> fine (wasn't all bubbly or burned insulation) the problem was
> that
> corrosion had got down and ruined the crimp connection from
> the
> wire that made up the link, to the plastic end connector on
> the link.
>
> Ted


If you don’t have any luck finding the fan relay in the PDC (under
bonnet fuse box) then your vehicle will have a solid state relay
system......it’s found on the nearside front chassis leg ( easy to
find once you know it’s there but a pig when you don’t ! )

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