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>>>>>>>>>Joe wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>The LX has started sounding more obnoxious these days, so I
>>>>>>>>>>decided to take a look underneath. Alas, nothing but swiss
>>>>>>>>>>cheese except for the Flows and the tips. The Flows might
>>>>>>>>>>last a bit more, but there are a bunch of soft spots so I
>>>>>>>>>>figure it's time to do a full cat-back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>So what are some of your favorites? Prices? Sound? Drone?
>>>>>>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Joe,
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>>>>>>>>>I had Dynomax on my old LX. They were just a little louder
>>>>>>>>>than stock, but they did drone at about 2,200 rpm. They were
>>>>>>>>>a bit quieter when I added a catted X-pipe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My '93 is still running the stock set-up... 103,000 and
>>>>>>>>>counting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Patrick
>>>>>>>>>'93 Cobra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I did check out some of the more common systems, i.e., Dynomax,
>>>>>>>Flowmaster, Borla, Bassani, etc. Amazingly, one of the least
>>>>>>>expensive systems I found was from Ford Racing:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?
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>>>>>>Thanks. Now I'm looking at the crate 302s again...
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, they're pretty cool. Not too streetable, but neat
>>>>>nonetheless...
>>>>
>>>>?? The "beginner's model" 302, rated at 315HP/305ft.-lbs... why not
>>>>streetable? I'm not taking TFrog to the track every week, but a
>>>>replacement 5.0 that makes 100HP more than I have now? And almost a
>>>>direct drop-in... I could learn to live with it.
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>>>I was looking at different ones...
>>>http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...?PartKeyField=
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>>>>>>>One thing I'm looking for here is a system with mandrel bent
>>>>>>>pipes. I know it's a case of 'you get what you pay for', but
>>>>>>>that's why I asked you guys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Dynomax pipes are mandrel bent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nice.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW, The LX pipes were fine way back at 103k miles. But now
>>>>>>>that I'm up to 143k, things have gotten pretty nasty. I'm sure
>>>>>>>dwight knows what I mean...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I remember what a happy day it was, when one of my pipes just
>>>>>>broke. That was some years ago, but it meant that I could go
>>>>>>shopping for a new set-up. I also remember asking just about the
>>>>>>same questions you are, and settled on the UltraFlows, because I
>>>>>>wanted a quieter sound for puttering around the neighborhood, but
>>>>>>a somewhat meaner note at acceleration. Where the stock pipes
>>>>>>were definitely a tenor, the UltraFlows would be baritone.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good way of describing them. I think I'd like the deeper tone.
>>>>
>>>>If I had the equipment, I'd send you sound files of both cars. I
>>>>really like the "note".
>>>
>>>
>>>Got one of those diskless mp3 players? Some record voice too. So
>>>get hold of one and record the exhaust. Then transfer the file to
>>>your computer and e-mail it to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>You got me curious, so I just stepped outside to poke around
>>>>>>under TFrog. The pipes are still very healthy, although several
>>>>>>inches of pipe just after the mufflers are showing signs of age.
>>>>>>The mufflers, themselves, still look new.
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you poke at them for soft spots? The LX's Flows looked ok,
>>>>>but there were a bunch of soft spots that will probably give way
>>>>>after a few more months or so.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, sure, I'll poke at 'em with a stick. No way! They're
>>>>corroded, but I don't want to force the issue by poking holes in
>>>>the pipes. Okay, okay, I'll look for "soft spots" - but if I DO
>>>>make holes, I'm just going to have to get ME a new exhaust...
>>>>
>>>>Okay, I'm back. Yes, some slight corrosion, but mostly just dirty
>>>>(sue me). The metal is still very sound. If I hadn't just moved,
>>>>I'd pull out the records and tell you how old they are - I think at
>>>>least 5 years.
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>>>
>>>I read the other post, and they'd better be good for only a few
>>>years. Mine are something like 6 years or more.. don't remember
>>>anymore.
>>>
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>>>>>>>>Double Dynomax here. The LX has the UltraFlows, really like the
>>>>>>>>sound. For the GT, with the turn-downs, I have the SuperTurbos
>>>>>>>>- a bit louder, but still more "dignified".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Besides - I AM an old fart, and I can't be running around with
>>>>>>>>Flowmasters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>dwight
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now, froggy, we are both old farts, but the Flows were never
>>>>>>>that bad. Unless, (like Michael is also saying about the
>>>>>>>UltraFlows) you put your foot into it, the old Flowmasters I
>>>>>>>have (had?) are fairly mellow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I kind of like the idea of staying mellow until you punch it,
>>>>>>>especially because my son will be driving the LX for the most
>>>>>>>part now. Even though the car sticks out on the road because of
>>>>>>>its color (the only other Calypso Green cars out there are a few
>>>>>>>old Rangers, Probes, and Tracers/Escorts), I'd much rather it
>>>>>>>didn't draw attention due to excessive noise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe
>>>>>>>Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
>>>>>>>Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hah! I've offered the convertible to my daughter, for the
>>>>>>occasional cruise this summer, but I'd still be sweating it out
>>>>>>if she ever took me up on it. There's no way in this life that
>>>>>>I'd let my son drive either Mustang - but you'd have to know my
>>>>>>son to understand. I don't think he'd be all that interested,
>>>>>>anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>You're referring to The Boy I assume..
>>>>
>>>>The Boy - who lives out of state and seems to have forgotten my
>>>>birthday.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hmm, you can always write him out of the will.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>I don't even like to see a mechanic drive my cars, if only from
>>>>>>the parking spot into the bay. I am one nervous owner...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>dwight
>>>>>
>>>>>I know what you mean, as I'm sort of the same way. But I force
>>>>>myself to just let it go and deal with it. At our age there are
>>>>>more important things to sweat over, eh?
>>>>
>>>>... Can't think of any. I have to go fill up the John Deere now.
>>>>
>>>>dwight
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, I have to go rent a $4 movie for tonight. Such wonderful down
>>>at the video store...
>>
>>This is somewhat off topic but have you checked out Netflix? I
>>signed up recently and have been fairly impressed with their
>>service. I can send three movies back Sunday afternoon and have
>>three more by the following Wednesday. It takes a movie one day
>>from ordering to showing up in our mail box! It takes 2-4 weeks for
>>the latest releases to show up on the site but it is convenient.
>>The movies come with a return envelope that already has return
>>postage on it. Very convenient. Plus DVD burners and blank media
>>are cheap nowadays.
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> We only watch a couple a month, so I don't know if I want to join a
> service just for that. Hell, we go to Wendy's more than we watch
> videos.

They have different plans. I pay $17/month to have three movies in
rotation. For $9/month there is a one movie rotation plan. Sounds like
that would be a plan you might consider. I like the convenience of it
more than anything. Plus they have a large library of DVD's from
current stuff to old movies from the 1950's and numerous television shows.

> I hear you about the DVD burners, but my PC is only a 450 P-III.
> Don't know if it'll handle burning DVDs...

It may not work. It might though if you had a good bit of RAM.

> Joe
> Calypso Green '93 5.0 LX AOD hatch with a few goodies
> Black '03 Dakota 5.9 R/T CC