On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 01:02:32 GMT, Arif Khokar >
wrote:

>Dave C. wrote:
>
>> Hey, minivans are horribly under-powered
>
>Try driving a 2003 or 2004 Honda Odyssey.

You need your sarcasm detector recalibrated.
--
Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

"What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . .
Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House
of Representatives, August 17, 1789