jczap wrote:
> I took the car in to be diagnosed and I'm told it's going to need a
> new wiring harness (it will be about $600 with the diagnosis, parts
> and labor). Mechanic said that this would be cheaper than trying to
> figure out which of the 50+ wires in the area might be damaged.
>
> I suppose these hidden problems often occur when buying a used car but
> I thought that I had covered my bases by having a 1 hr "bumper to
> bumper" safety inspection prior to purchasing it.
>
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> blinker stuck on
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> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 9:36 am
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> when i have my headlights turned on, my left blinkers are stuck on but
> do not blink.
> when i have my headlights off, my left blinker works fine but the
> car's
>
>
> digital clock blinks on and off.
>
>
> has anyone else had a similar problem? is it something that is
> difficult to fix? thanks.
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> From: DeserTBoB - view profile
> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 10:15 am
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> On 5 Sep 2006 06:36:03 -0700, "jczap" > wrote:
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>> when i have my headlights turned on, my left blinkers are stuck on
>> but
>> do not blink.
>> when i have my headlights off, my left blinker works fine but the
>> car's
>
>> digital clock blinks on and off. <snip>
>
>
>
> You have a rather interesting electrical problem that seems to trace
> back to the fuse block. Has this car been in a wreck or had any major
> work done lately, or did it just start happening? It sounds to me as
> if the panel light circuit is somehow shorted to the left turn signal
> circuit. It could be happening anywhere in the dash panel circuit as
> well, which sounds like the probable cause. If the dash TS indicator
> is somehow shorted to the panel light circuit, that'd do it for sure.
>
> I'm curiously reminded of the home center commercials where the guy
> puts in a ceiling fan, throws the switch to show off to his old lady,
> and the sprinklers come on.
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> From: jczap - view profile
> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 10:43 am
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> I'm not sure if this problem has been going on for awhile or if it
> just
>
> started- I bought the car used from a private owner last week. The
> carfax report didn't say that it had been in any accidents. It is
> possible that the former owner tried to fix it himself because the
> cover to the fuses is missing.
>
> I take it that this problem is too difficult for a novice like myself
> to fix? Is it likely to be expensive to repair? Thanks.
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> jczap wrote:
>> when i have my headlights turned on, my left blinkers are stuck on
>> but
>> do not blink.
>> when i have my headlights off, my left blinker works fine but the
>> car's
>
>> digital clock blinks on and off.
>
>
>> has anyone else had a similar problem? is it something that is
>> difficult to fix? thanks.
>
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> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 11:00 am
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> On 5 Sep 2006 07:43:44 -0700, "jczap" > wrote:
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>> I'm not sure if this problem has been going on for awhile or if it
>> just started- I bought the car used from a private owner last week.
>> The
>> carfax report didn't say that it had been in any accidents. It is
>> possible that the former owner tried to fix it himself because the
>> cover to the fuses is missing. <snip>
>
>
> There ya go! Bumbling owner tried to fix, couldn't, sold his troubles
> to someone else. Trouble could be in the fuse block, but could also
> be up in the dash. What seems to be happening is that the LH turn
> signal circuit is crossed with the dash light circuit...that's why
> your digital clock is probably flashing from dim to bright, rather
> than on and off. First clue: pull the instrument lamp fuse, and the
> turn sigs may start working.
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> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 12:22 pm
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> thanks for the guideance!
>
> will the instrument lamp fuse be labeled in some way?
>
>
> I also noticed this posting online, in which a person seemed to have a
> similar problem. do you think (like the discussion below) a bulb
> could
>
> be a problem or because the clock is flashing there is likely a short.
>
>
> thanks again
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> Turn Signal Lamp Stuck On
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> From: Spiderman - view profile
> Date: Wed, Jul 9 2003 2:11 am
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> The left turn signal indicator in the dash is stuck ON only when the
> headlights are turned on. The left turn bulb on the front blinks when
> turning, but is off otherwise...unlike the right front turn bulb. Are
> you
> telling me that the steady left turn signal indicator is telling me to
> replace the front left turn bulb?
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> "George" > wrote in message
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> I think its telling you that you have a bulb burned out. Its not the
> turn
> signal bulb. Its in the turn signal housing but its a small bulb that
> can
> be seen from the side of the truck. Turn on your park lights and look
> at
> the right side of the truck. You have a parklight that is seen from
> the
> front and another (smaller) light that's seen from the side. If you
> turn on
> the right blinker, it blinks in front and on the side. Do the same on
> the
> left. The small bulb to the side of the truck is not working. This
> might
> all be for nothing, cause I've been wrong before. GM started this
> stuff in
> the 70's I think. On older trucks, it was a "clearance" light in the
> fender
> (separate from the turn signal, but it blinked with it.)
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> DeserTBoB wrote:
>> On 5 Sep 2006 07:43:44 -0700, "jczap" >
>> wrote:
>
>>> I'm not sure if this problem has been going on for awhile or if it
>>> just started- I bought the car used from a private owner last week.
>>> The carfax report didn't say that it had been in any accidents. It
>>> is possible that the former owner tried to fix it himself because
>>> the cover to the fuses is missing. <snip>
>
>
>> There ya go! Bumbling owner tried to fix, couldn't, sold his
>> troubles
>> to someone else. Trouble could be in the fuse block, but could also
>> be up in the dash. What seems to be happening is that the LH turn
>> signal circuit is crossed with the dash light circuit...that's why
>> your digital clock is probably flashing from dim to bright, rather
>> than on and off. First clue: pull the instrument lamp fuse, and the
>> turn sigs may start working.
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> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 1:44 pm
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> On 5 Sep 2006 09:22:45 -0700, "jczap" > wrote:
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>> thanks for the guideance!
>
>> will the instrument lamp fuse be labeled in some way? <snip>
>
>
>
> Yes, on GM and Chryslers, I've seen it variously as "INST LPS" and
> "PNL LPS", and maybe a couple of others.
>
>
>> I also noticed this posting online, in which a person seemed to have
>> a similar problem. do you think (like the discussion below) a bulb
>> could
>> be a problem or because the clock is flashing there is likely a
>> short. <snip>
>
>
>
> A "bulb" itself isn't the problem, but I've seen cases where the bases
> on bayonet style "twist in" panel lamps weren't installed properly and
> one of the contact would be rubbing another trace on a printed wiring
> board, although that's a stretch.
>
> Trouble's somewhere in the dash lamp circuit, and I bet there's a
> cross between the instrument lamp circuit and the LH turn signal
> indicator circuit, probably in the instrument cluster itself.
> Obvously, some goof has been rummaging around in the fuse panel
> already. Hint: the cover to the fuse panel is most likely under the
> driver's seat, where I usually find them all.
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> From: Steve B. - view profile
> Date: Tues, Sep 5 2006 5:51 pm
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>> On 5 Sep 2006 06:36:03 -0700, "jczap" >
>> wrote:
>
>> when i have my headlights turned on, my left blinkers are stuck on
>> but
>> do not blink.
>> when i have my headlights off, my left blinker works fine but the
>> car's
>
>
>
> Start by checking / replacing the bulbs on the left side. The turn
> signal bulbs have two filaments in them. It is possible for one
> filament to fail, break, and then fall on to the other filament. When
> this happens all sorts of weird things start happening with the
> lights.
>
> First thing I would do would be to check those bulbs very carefully
> for a broken filament or replace them or swap them to the other side
> and see if the problem goes away (or moves to the other side if you
> swap them).
>
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> Steve B.
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