wrote:
> Is this group not for questions, or is it only to share mutual wisdom
> with other techs? If not, I'm sorry to bother you with this added
> non-relevant question, but can you direct me to the correct group for
> lesser ones like me. (What is this group for? Is this a job application
> group?)
>
> I'll try to be more precise in my terminology. Is there an Auto Repair
> Terminology group that I can ask when I don't know the correct word so
> I don't waste the valuable time of experts like yourself? If not, maybe
> someone (you, maybe) could start one? Think of the power one would
> have.
>
> What's a troll? . . . Oh wait . . .you may be thinking you're on a
> fishing group. Maybe that's why you mentioned troll.
>
> I'm sorry . . . too poor to hire people if I can avoid it, but I guess
> that lessens the work that pros like you make (Excuse me. I meant to
> say have.). I read manuals and do repairs myself, due to necessity. I
> try to figure out the possibilities with the symptoms present, consider
> the variables, guess at the solution, roll up my sleeves and work on
> the more difficult problems that I have tools for. In the meantime I
> ask friends for any insight they may have. I don't ask anybody to do
> the work for me. I do it myself. If things go well, I might be able to
> finish in a couple of weeks of pecking away in between my workdays
> (which do not involve car-related matters). I ask questions because I
> don't know the answers.
>
> I thought with the wonders of the internet and the kindness of others,
> groups like this might be an excellent place to get some insight into
> problems that I have not experienced in my 45 years of "compulsory
> training" in car repairs.
>
> Mostly the varied repairs I've done have only been done once and they
> were fixed and AOK afterwards (I've managed to keep two of my past
> vehicles running for over 250,000 mi.)
>
> Anyhow it's good that you question my motives and desires. A lot more
> "users" out there, today than there were 30 years ago. You can't be too
> careful, can you? You're right to try to expose new members to protect
> everyone else from dangerous predators infiltrating the auto tech
> group. It makes me more careful to assess my own motives when I proceed
> through life.
>
> I hope you have a better day, Mr. Monster.
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Mr. Knukkles
To address a few of your concerns,
this group is here for techs to vent frustration over having to
work 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for over 30 years in an
industry that is hopelessly dependent, for the most part, on customers
that come through the door expecting cheap miracles, low cost snake-oil
remedies, and free or low cost repairs with absolutely no second
thought
to the dude that's doing them. Also, it's here to help folks like you
muddle
on through life with the help of others because your damned lazy to do
a
simple google in an NG on a topic that's been addressed a thousand
times
in the past.

as for a link to where you may find what yer asking for......

here try this link, i think maybe you'll be happy with it.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...6bfe0464093151

I've been following it....it seems to have what you need....
less frustrated techs.




Now,
as for me being an expert......
not me. I work down at the loading docks.


A site for a better understanding and usage of terminology..??
yeah......i know a few of them....do what I did...GOOGLE.
You seem to be an intellegent sort of feller..........
go for it. Do a repost, let us know what you came up with.
After all, we're rooting for you, we want you to ATTEMPT to
fix this thing yerself. We know you can't. But..we want to
see you try.


and last.......
I was not questioning yer motives.
I was hoping you would come back with some proliferated overly
selfindulgent post that would open the door into a better understanding
of your overall worth as a customer. You know, drag out of you some
spewing of insight into your thought process, some sense of what you
have in you as a man, some hint as to your level of patients and
understanding
toward technicians......don't want no arse-hole customers you know.
Lifes jest to short. It's easier to spend a sec or two right up front
to
eliminate a few weeks of bullsheet.
What I expected, and what you gave, was a selfindulgent ranting of
selfworth, a brief synopsis of your experience, a gloating on your
history as a species of the human race, and doorway into your life.
Now that i see that you've got balls, are somewhat literate, and have
a firm grasp of the english lanquage in written form...
I would like to save you a lot of time, anquish, wasted money, and
most importantly skint knuckles........

here's the facts about your vehical, it's symptoms, and what it's gonna
take to enact a satisfactory repair.......


It's broke.....
It's broke bad.....

you can't fix it.

there's no bandage.
there's no patch.
there's no trick.
there's no snake-oil remendy.
there's no doubt.....
it's gotta come out!



in closing.....

hopefully this trist will lead to a working relationship that will
last for
years to come.....if not....oh well, i'll jest wait fer the next
opportunity
to make a good customer out of another individual with high
expectations.
Keep in mind.....when you go to the doctor with a pain in your arse,
he pokes you all over to be sure he has you working well.




lastly, and purely out of curiosity,

What do you do for a living?

I work on transmissions.



~:~
MarshMonster
~appreciates the fact that you didn't use bad lanquage and bull-whips
on
him......good form~