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Old April 8th 06, 07:48 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
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"beep_beep" > wrote in message
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>
> Okay, then, it sounds as if I'll be able to run a blend of maybe 15% to
> 25% alcohol/gasoline without doing any mods? The carb is easy enough
> to re-jet. Any suggestions on which size to use?
>
> Thanks, Dennis and Tim, for your comments.
>
> I wonder if there's a way to remove alcohol or most of it from an
> alcohol/gasoline blend? Distillation? Settling? Filtration? Then I
> can put the gas into the VW and drink the alcohol.
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> In article >, Tim Rogers
> > wrote:
>
>> "Dennis Wik" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I've used E-10 and E-15 in my vw's for over 12 years without any
>> > modifications or problems. I will be using E-50 to E-85 in my Puma
>> > this
>> > summer. VW's in Brazil ran up to 100% alcohol for decades. I love the
>> > stuff, higher octane (up to 105 in the E-85 blend), cooler and longer
>> > burn (better for head temps) and less emmissions (Oil is carbon based
>> > while alcohol is an organic compound which breaks down).
>> > Enjoy....Dennis

>>
>> >
>> >

>>
>> ............Alcohol is also a carbon based molecule and petroleum is also
>> an
>> organic compound. All organic compounds are carbon based.
>>
>> .........Ethanol-gasoline blends are just a government subsidy for
>> agribusiness in my opinion............Petrolem based fertilizer is used
>> to
>> grow corn-----petroleum based energy is used process the corn into
>> alcohol........Government subsidies are used in every step of
>> manufacture,
>> distribution and sale to bring down the cost of e-gas at the pump.
>> Without a
>> modern engine management system that adjusts mixture based on the
>> resistance
>> value of an 02 sensor, carbureted engines in older cars will run too lean
>> on
>> it which usually results in loss of power and poor mileage. The fix for
>> that
>> is to re-jet the carb and increasing the compression ratio of the engine
>> would help use this fuel more efficiently as well. This is all dependent
>> on
>> the concentration of ethanol vs gasoline in the blend.......E-85 which
>> has
>> 85% ethanol blended with 15% gasoline won't work in an older vehicle
>> without
>> going to a carburetor which can be jetted properly to run much richer
>> than
>> normal and also you would need to get rid of all natural rubber in the
>> fuel
>> system from the tank to the fuel pump's diaphragm to the boots on your
>> 1600
>> DP's intake manifold. The other potential problem for e-gas in an older
>> vehicle is the rust problem in the gas tank and steel gas line that can
>> result from the water absorption property of ethanol. This might not be
>> real
>> big problem in an area where the climate is dry and humidity levels
>> average
>> less than what many of us see here in the eastern states.
>>
>> .......If all non-commercial vehicles were simply required to average at
>> least 25 miles per gallon, you would solve the dependency on oil imports
>> problem and get rid of a large portion of the emissions problem. I'd have
>> to
>> park 2 of my vehicles but I have 3 others that would satify that
>> restriction
>> easily. Here's another idea: Double the price of gas for vehicles that
>> weigh
>> more than 4,000 pounds and which don't have a commercial use
>> permit..........bye bye Suburbans, Durangos, Hummers and Expeditions.



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