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Old April 8th 06, 07:37 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled
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Okay, then, it sounds as if I'll be able to run a blend of maybe 15% to
25% alcohol/gasoline without doing any mods? The carb is easy enough
to re-jet. Any suggestions on which size to use?

Thanks, Dennis and Tim, for your comments.

I wonder if there's a way to remove alcohol or most of it from an
alcohol/gasoline blend? Distillation? Settling? Filtration? Then I
can put the gas into the VW and drink the alcohol.

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In article >, Tim Rogers
> wrote:

> "Dennis Wik" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've used E-10 and E-15 in my vw's for over 12 years without any
> > modifications or problems. I will be using E-50 to E-85 in my Puma this
> > summer. VW's in Brazil ran up to 100% alcohol for decades. I love the
> > stuff, higher octane (up to 105 in the E-85 blend), cooler and longer
> > burn (better for head temps) and less emmissions (Oil is carbon based
> > while alcohol is an organic compound which breaks down).
> > Enjoy....Dennis

>
> >
> >

>
> ............Alcohol is also a carbon based molecule and petroleum is also an
> organic compound. All organic compounds are carbon based.
>
> .........Ethanol-gasoline blends are just a government subsidy for
> agribusiness in my opinion............Petrolem based fertilizer is used to
> grow corn-----petroleum based energy is used process the corn into
> alcohol........Government subsidies are used in every step of manufacture,
> distribution and sale to bring down the cost of e-gas at the pump. Without a
> modern engine management system that adjusts mixture based on the resistance
> value of an 02 sensor, carbureted engines in older cars will run too lean on
> it which usually results in loss of power and poor mileage. The fix for that
> is to re-jet the carb and increasing the compression ratio of the engine
> would help use this fuel more efficiently as well. This is all dependent on
> the concentration of ethanol vs gasoline in the blend.......E-85 which has
> 85% ethanol blended with 15% gasoline won't work in an older vehicle without
> going to a carburetor which can be jetted properly to run much richer than
> normal and also you would need to get rid of all natural rubber in the fuel
> system from the tank to the fuel pump's diaphragm to the boots on your 1600
> DP's intake manifold. The other potential problem for e-gas in an older
> vehicle is the rust problem in the gas tank and steel gas line that can
> result from the water absorption property of ethanol. This might not be real
> big problem in an area where the climate is dry and humidity levels average
> less than what many of us see here in the eastern states.
>
> .......If all non-commercial vehicles were simply required to average at
> least 25 miles per gallon, you would solve the dependency on oil imports
> problem and get rid of a large portion of the emissions problem. I'd have to
> park 2 of my vehicles but I have 3 others that would satify that restriction
> easily. Here's another idea: Double the price of gas for vehicles that weigh
> more than 4,000 pounds and which don't have a commercial use
> permit..........bye bye Suburbans, Durangos, Hummers and Expeditions.

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