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Old January 13th 05, 01:02 PM
ParrotRob
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"C.H." > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:08:53 -0600, Brent P wrote:
>
>> In article >, C.H. wrote:
>>
>>>> Fine, convince me.

>>
>>> Half of all accidents at night at least alcohol related. 1000 of 6000
>>> traffic deaths per year definitely alcohol related with an unknown but
>>> supposedly rather large number of cases not checked. German TUEV
>>> suspects
>>> that almost half of all fatal accidents are either alcohol or drug
>>> related.

>>
>> Alcohol related. This is like 'speed related'.

>
> Alcohol related means either the direct cause of the accident was alcohol,
> or that alcohol at least precluded the driver from fixing the situation by
> making an evasive maneuver.
>
>> Totally sober moron driver runs a red light and hits a pedestrian
>> crossing the street on his walk signal. The ped had 2 beers in the last
>> hour and half. Bingo alcohol related.

>
> The German police is significantly more thorough than the police around
> here in determining the real cause of the crash even if one or both
> drivers were intoxicated. So the numbers are pretty accurate.
>
>>> http://www.psy-online.de/mpu/wirkung.htm

>>
>> A flyer in German. the kind of agenda driven thing we see here in the
>> USA all the time.

>
> The data is taken from the state medical psychological assessment (MPU)
> that a drunk driver has to go through if he wants his license back after
> a DUI. So it is pretty accurate.
>
>>> Quote:
>>> From .03%: Distances are estimated wrong

>>
>> I can't estimate distances in feet or meters correctly SOBER. I can
>> estimate them in my-car-can-stop-from-here-to-there just fine.

>
> ... and this stopping distance estimation capability drastically decreases
> from .03%. Maybe you think you still can do it but real life tests have
> shown again and again that people in reality can't.
>
>>> From .05%: Red doesn't register with the brain any more.

>>
>> I find this very hard to believe.

>
> Nevertheless it is true. Red loses its signal function (you still can tell
> it is red after looking at it for a bit but the 'eeek, the light is red'
> goes away, thus the risk of running a red light drastically increases).
>
>>> Bright-dark-reaction of the Iris slowed down

>>
>> Dangerously so? Slower than say an 80 year old compared with a 20 year
>> old?

>
> Yes, dangerously so, which is why at night in almost half of all fatal
> accidents at least one of the drivers was intoxicated.


Which means in OVER half, all of the drivers were lethally sober.

I love those stats: 87 people killed this year in XXX County! 31 of them
alcohol-related! - So let me get this straight, 56 of them were
sober-related? :-)


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