"DougW" > wrote in message
news:jOWig.52802$9c6.2046@dukeread11...
> Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> > If water and oil emulsion (i.e. what Mike is calling "foamy") is in the
> > torque converter, then you will have to change the fluid, run the engine
> > some, and then change it again, to get all or most of the water out.
> > The torque converter holds approximately half the fluid in the
> > transmission, and as far as I know there is no convenient way to
> > drain it. It would be helpful to have a mechanic, who knows by
> > sight and feel, the difference between water and oil emulsion, and
> > foam caused by overfilling. The foam that Bill is talking about,
> > is air in oil, and should go away as soon as the proper amount
> > of fluid is restored.
>
> The only good way to clean it all out is to remove it and compleatly drain
> the torque converter.
>
> If it's water then draining is the only way.
> http://www.quality-trans.com/faq/faq6.htm
>
Of course no one really believes that their transmission needs to be taken
apart and rebuilt. Theirs is always the one that will miraculously recover,
because they have caught the problem and done something in time. Or, "There
really isn't that much water in mine. Two or three changes will fix it."
In psychology this is called "denial".

I have seen the process of changing the fluid in a modern, no-drain-fitting
torque converter described. It involves a tiny siphon hose and the patience
of Job. It is not a reasonable procedure unless you have way more time on
your hands than money. When I worked in the Dodge garage I just told the
service manager, "Look, this transmission has one of X conditions, where the
manual dictates replacing the torque converter. Tell the customer we can't
give him any warranty on the job, unless we sell him one." Burnt smelling
fluid required a new torque converter. Water in the fluid required a new
torque converter. And so on. This is all true, but lots of people try a
fluid change first, and many may get a few more miles out of it.

Who are we, to tell people what reality is all about?

Earle





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