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Ed Dreistadt October 23rd 04 02:47 PM

Stratus Engine Swap?
 
I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
to a 5-speed.

Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in its
place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
2.0.

I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the Kidney
Foundation.

-Ed Dreistadt

maxpower October 23rd 04 03:56 PM

If it wasnt offered before......how are you gonna get the engine controller
that will make the 2.4 run??
"Ed Dreistadt" > wrote in message
...
> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
> to a 5-speed.
>
> Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in its
> place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> 2.0.
>
> I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the Kidney
> Foundation.
>
> -Ed Dreistadt




maxpower October 23rd 04 03:56 PM

If it wasnt offered before......how are you gonna get the engine controller
that will make the 2.4 run??
"Ed Dreistadt" > wrote in message
...
> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
> to a 5-speed.
>
> Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in its
> place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> 2.0.
>
> I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the Kidney
> Foundation.
>
> -Ed Dreistadt




Cirrus99x October 23rd 04 04:06 PM

>Ed Dreistadt wrote:

>I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
>to a 5-speed.
>
>Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in its
>place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
>bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
>2.0.
>
>I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the Kidney
>Foundation.
>
>-Ed Dreistadt



Ed,
Check out http://www.stratusphere.us/ I'm sure someone over there has done
that swap.

LG

Cirrus99x October 23rd 04 04:06 PM

>Ed Dreistadt wrote:

>I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
>to a 5-speed.
>
>Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in its
>place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
>bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
>2.0.
>
>I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the Kidney
>Foundation.
>
>-Ed Dreistadt



Ed,
Check out http://www.stratusphere.us/ I'm sure someone over there has done
that swap.

LG

Daniel J. Stern October 24th 04 12:39 AM

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:

> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> Kidney Foundation.


ED-

Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.

Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
friend!

-DS

Daniel J. Stern October 24th 04 12:39 AM

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:

> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> Kidney Foundation.


ED-

Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.

Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
friend!

-DS

maxpower October 24th 04 11:39 AM

If that was not offered back then ,,,, then there was no module back then
either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application such
as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with needeing
to know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an area
that requires a state emmission program.....u may have serious problems
"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
>
> > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> > its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> > bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> > 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> > Kidney Foundation.

>
> ED-
>
> Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
> would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
> 2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
> happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
> module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
>
> Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
> available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
> friend!
>
> -DS




maxpower October 24th 04 11:39 AM

If that was not offered back then ,,,, then there was no module back then
either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application such
as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with needeing
to know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an area
that requires a state emmission program.....u may have serious problems
"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
n.umich.edu...
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
>
> > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> > its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> > bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> > 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> > Kidney Foundation.

>
> ED-
>
> Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
> would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
> 2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
> happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
> module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
>
> Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
> available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
> friend!
>
> -DS




mic canic October 24th 04 04:37 PM

actually the module may work and i say that because a friend in cali. has a
300m with a 3.5 and i put in a salvage yard pcm from a year earlier car with a
3.2 and used a drb to reset the module and even progamed a new skim into and
it's been running fine since
he even passed emissions there
i believe there is a car club called the 12th element who hop up neon's and
that some of the things they have been doing if i remember correctly
maxpower wrote:

> If that was not offered back then ,,,, then there was no module back then
> either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application such
> as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with needeing
> to know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an area
> that requires a state emmission program.....u may have serious problems
> "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message
> n.umich.edu...
> > On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Ed Dreistadt wrote:
> >
> > > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> > > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> > > its place while keeping the 5-speed? This combo wasn't offered when I
> > > bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> > > 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> > > Kidney Foundation.

> >
> > ED-
> >
> > Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
> > would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
> > 2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
> > happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
> > module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.
> >
> > Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
> > available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
> > friend!
> >
> > -DS




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