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justlarry April 1st 06 12:12 AM

ignition noise
 
I have an '00 Intrepid and an '02 Stratus, and whenever I try to use a
battery operated CB radio (for trips) or a "ham" radio, whether with
internal or external antenna, I get lots of ignition noise when the car is
running. It's not a "whine" but more like a speed-intensive "pop." The
noise is present even when running of the power outlet. Shut off the
engine, and the interference is gone.

Wondering what I could do to eliminate the noise. Would running the units
directly off the battery (or in my case the positive and negative terminals
in the engine compartment) help.

Thanks for any clues.



Mike Surwill April 1st 06 12:22 AM

ignition noise
 

"justlarry" <n3wmgATexciteDOTcom> wrote in message
...
> I have an '00 Intrepid and an '02 Stratus, ....(snip)


The ignition pulses are being picked up by the wiring under the hood. Need
to get an ignition filter from RadioShack or similar location, ground it
well, and connect your wiring for your CB/HAM radio through it. If you're
really handy, you can build your own filter from instructions found in any
one of several HAM radio books which should save you some money. Good luck
......



Ken Weitzel April 1st 06 01:38 AM

ignition noise
 


justlarry wrote:
> I have an '00 Intrepid and an '02 Stratus, and whenever I try to use a
> battery operated CB radio (for trips) or a "ham" radio, whether with
> internal or external antenna, I get lots of ignition noise when the car is
> running. It's not a "whine" but more like a speed-intensive "pop." The
> noise is present even when running of the power outlet. Shut off the
> engine, and the interference is gone.
>
> Wondering what I could do to eliminate the noise. Would running the units
> directly off the battery (or in my case the positive and negative terminals
> in the engine compartment) help.
>
> Thanks for any clues.


Hi Just...

Running it off the vehicle battery - no matter where you
connect it - won't make a bit of difference.

What _might_ help is checking that the hood is very, very well
grounded.

Take care.

Ken


Steve Stone April 2nd 06 03:36 AM

ignition noise
 

Kenwood mobile ham gear like the triband 742 D came with a huge toroid hung
noise suppressor on the power input leads that prevented just about any
noise from getting in that way.

Bond your hood to the body with a hunk a flat ground cable.

Try moving the antenna and coax leading to it someplace else ( I assume you
are using a mag mount ?)

Try making sure your antenna has a good ground.

try an external speaker with a built in DSP noise reduction circuit.






justlarry April 2nd 06 01:56 PM

ignition noise
 
Thanks for all the replies. I've tried both mag mount and "set-screw"
mountings for the antenna; no difference. But will check the grounding from
hood to body. I'm inclined to think the noise is being picked up by the
antenna, since it still noisy with internal battery power.



"Steve Stone" > wrote in message
...
>
> Kenwood mobile ham gear like the triband 742 D came with a huge toroid
> hung noise suppressor on the power input leads that prevented just about
> any noise from getting in that way.
>
> Bond your hood to the body with a hunk a flat ground cable.
>
> Try moving the antenna and coax leading to it someplace else ( I assume
> you are using a mag mount ?)
>
> Try making sure your antenna has a good ground.
>
> try an external speaker with a built in DSP noise reduction circuit.
>
>
>
>
>




Percival P. Cassidy April 2nd 06 11:54 PM

ignition noise
 
On 03/31/06 06:12 pm justlarry wrote:

> I have an '00 Intrepid and an '02 Stratus, and whenever I try to use a
> battery operated CB radio (for trips) or a "ham" radio, whether with
> internal or external antenna, I get lots of ignition noise when the car is
> running. It's not a "whine" but more like a speed-intensive "pop." The
> noise is present even when running of the power outlet. Shut off the
> engine, and the interference is gone.
>
> Wondering what I could do to eliminate the noise. Would running the units
> directly off the battery (or in my case the positive and negative terminals
> in the engine compartment) help.
>
> Thanks for any clues.


I have from time to time run my Icom IC-706MkIIG in our '02 300M. The
rig is mounted in the trunk, with #6 power wiring direct from the
battery (with a fuse in the +ve lead right next to the battery). I use
an appropriate Ham-Stick (or similar) antenna attached to a trunk-lip
mount. I "bridged" the hood and trunk hinges with battery grounding straps.

I've sometimes detected the ignition interference, but the noise blanker
will usually take it out (and the 706 noise blanker is generally thought
to be far from the best around).

I do have a RadioSchlock "Heavy Duty Noise Filter" ready to install, but
so far I haven't gotten around to doing it.

"Perce"
(aka Alan NV8A)


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