EVAP control system leak
 

I got a 98 Honda Accord. From more than a year ago, I spell gas around
the gas tank whenever I finish driving and exit. Now the check engine
light is on and I find the code to be 90. My Haynes manual says it's

P1456 -- 90 -- EVAP control system leak near fuel tank
P1457 -- 90 -- EVAP control system leak near canister

I think it's the first one. The repair is probably beyond my capability
for safety reason. The manual says "Fortunately, the evaporative
control system, like all emission control systems, is protected by a
Federally-mandated warranty". Does that mean I can get it fixed for
free? If not, how much would it be approximately? BTW, I passed
inspection in April so I think the gas cap is (or was) good.

I'll talk to the dealer on Monday. Thanks for any advice.

Yong Huang

EVAP control system leak
 

On 9 Jul 2006 07:59:27 -0700, wrote:

>I got a 98 Honda Accord. From more than a year ago, I spell gas around
>the gas tank whenever I finish driving and exit. Now the check engine
>light is on and I find the code to be 90. My Haynes manual says it's
>
>P1456 -- 90 -- EVAP control system leak near fuel tank
>P1457 -- 90 -- EVAP control system leak near canister
>
>I think it's the first one. The repair is probably beyond my capability
>for safety reason. The manual says "Fortunately, the evaporative
>control system, like all emission control systems, is protected by a
>Federally-mandated warranty". Does that mean I can get it fixed for
>free?

It highly doubtful! There was a campaign on '96 and '97 models which
extended the emissions warranty to 14 years, 140,000 miles. That
campaign does NOT apply to your '98 model and the warranty is surely
expired.

> If not, how much would it be approximately?

No way to tell until its diagnosed.

> BTW, I passed
>inspection in April

What are the inspections standards in your area?

Don
www.donsautomotive.com

> so I think the gas cap is (or was) good.

You might try a new gas cap.

>I'll talk to the dealer on Monday. Thanks for any advice.
>
>Yong Huang

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wrote in
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> I got a 98 Honda Accord. From more than a year ago, I spell gas around
> the gas tank whenever I finish driving and exit. Now the check engine
> light is on and I find the code to be 90. My Haynes manual says it's
>
> P1456 -- 90 -- EVAP control system leak near fuel tank
> P1457 -- 90 -- EVAP control system leak near canister
>
> I think it's the first one.




You have no way of knowing. Honda retained the old Check Engine light
flash diag for your generation, but did not provide the finely-grained
error coding supplied via the ODB-II port.




> The repair is probably beyond my capability
> for safety reason. The manual says "Fortunately, the evaporative
> control system, like all emission control systems, is protected by a
> Federally-mandated warranty". Does that mean I can get it fixed for
> free? If not, how much would it be approximately? BTW, I passed
> inspection in April so I think the gas cap is (or was) good.
>
> I'll talk to the dealer on Monday. Thanks for any advice.
>



You need to narrow down that code, which means a proper scan with an OBD-II
reader.

If the code is P1456, it's almost certainly the gas cap.


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"TeGGeR®" > wrote in
:

> wrote in
> oups.com:
>
>> I got a 98 Honda Accord. From more than a year ago, I spell gas
>> around the gas tank whenever I finish driving and exit. Now the check
>> engine light is on and I find the code to be 90. My Haynes manual
>> says it's
>>


Further to my post above: Check for rust/damage around and behind the gas
filler neck. I think your overflow pipe is plastic, but it can still get
damaged and leak. To check from the inside, you need to remove the inner
fender liner (the left rear wheel, then a few clips.

Has the car ever been in a collision that damaged the left rear?

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TeGGeR® wrote:
> "TeGGeR®" > wrote in
> :
>
> > wrote in
> > oups.com:
> >
> >> I got a 98 Honda Accord. From more than a year ago, I spell gas
> >> around the gas tank whenever I finish driving and exit. Now the check
> >> engine light is on and I find the code to be 90. My Haynes manual
> >> says it's
> >>
>
>
> Further to my post above: Check for rust/damage around and behind the gas
> filler neck. I think your overflow pipe is plastic, but it can still get
> damaged and leak. To check from the inside, you need to remove the inner
> fender liner (the left rear wheel, then a few clips.
>
> Has the car ever been in a collision that damaged the left rear?
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
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> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Thank you, TeGGeR (and Don). My car never had any accident. I'll try
using my 2003 Honda Odyssey gas cap and see if the problem goes away.
The check engine light came on before April's inspection and went away.
So I'm afraid the gas cap is OK or it would be found defective in the
inspection.

I called the local dealer. They told me there's no such
federally-mandated warranty except for oxygen sensor or catalytic
converter. I told them the cat converter was replaced in 2004 under
warranty just before it expired. He doesn't seem to know much about
these expiration dates.

Yong Huang

EVAP control system leak
 

wrote in
ps.com:


>
> I called the local dealer. They told me there's no such
> federally-mandated warranty except for oxygen sensor or catalytic
> converter.



There is a US-only 8yr/80K federal warranty for the catalytic converter and
the engine's emissions computer. The oxygen sensor is covered only by the
2yr/24K mile warranyt unless Honda covers it for longer.

See inside the horse's mouth for mo
http://www.epa.gov/obd/warranties.htm





> I told them the cat converter was replaced in 2004 under
> warranty just before it expired. He doesn't seem to know much about
> these expiration dates.


You only get one shot at the federal waranty replacement. After that,
you're on your own.



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Don > wrote in
:

> There was a campaign on '96 and '97 models which
> extended the emissions warranty to 14 years, 140,000 miles.


That's only on some California-market vehicles.

More he
http://www.epa.gov/obd/warranties.htm

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