Why did this fix work?
 

One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
worked. Can anyone guess the reason?

nooobody wrote:

> One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
> Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
> stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
> worked. Can anyone guess the reason?
>

Water in the cooling system was getting slushy and the drag on the water
pump was too much for the starter?

nate


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"Nate Nagel" > wrote in message
...
> nooobody wrote:
>
>> One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
>> Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
>> stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
>> worked. Can anyone guess the reason?
>>
>
> Water in the cooling system was getting slushy and the drag on the water
> pump was too much for the starter?
>
> nate
>

That was my first thought, but if it was that slushy how'd he drain it
enough to replace any appreciable amount? Now I'm thinking his story is pure
BS.
Bob

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:34:35 GMT, "nooobody" >
wrote:

>One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
>Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
>stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
>worked. Can anyone guess the reason?
>

I think it was a coincidence. You cranked the battery, which caused
internal heat. You paused did your any freeze thing, might even
warmed up outside more, and when you cranked again the battery had a
little more juice to fire things up.

How's that for a guess....

:)

later,

tom @ www.CarFleaMarket.com

On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:35:44 -0500, > wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:34:35 GMT, "nooobody" >
>wrote:

>>One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
>>Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
>>stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
>>worked. Can anyone guess the reason?
>>

>I think it was a coincidence. You cranked the battery, which caused
>internal heat. You paused did your any freeze thing, might even
>warmed up outside more, and when you cranked again the battery had a
>little more juice to fire things up.

>How's that for a guess....

>:)



How this: the thermostat was stuck open and the engine couldn't warm up.
Increasing the strength of the coolant reduced it's cooling efficiency.

Then next summer the car overheated and the engine siezed up.

"nooobody" > wrote in message news:%GMwd.514261$Pl.269401@pd7tw1no...
> One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
> Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
> stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
> worked. Can anyone guess the reason?

The stronger anti-freeze further drops the cold sensor readings.

TeGGer=AE wrote:
> Nate Nagel > floridly penned in
> :
>
> > nooobody wrote:
> >
> >> One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in
Ontario,
> >> Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
> >> stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why
it
> >> worked. Can anyone guess the reason?
> >>
> >
> > Water in the cooling system was getting slushy and the drag on the
water
> > pump was too much for the starter?
> >
>
>
>
> Unfortunately the OP provided no detail, so we can't even guess.


Don't you think he just put hot coolant in that cold engine and it
warmet it up enough?
>
> What did he mean by "would not start"?
> 1) Would not crank?
> 2) Cranked too slowly?
> 3) Cranked fine, but would not fire?
> 4) Fired but would not keep running?
>=20
> Pretty important to know.
>=20
> --=20
> TeGGeR=AE

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 06:39:27 GMT, "Burt Squareman"
> wrote:

>"nooobody" > wrote in message news:%GMwd.514261$Pl.269401@pd7tw1no...
>> One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in Ontario,
>> Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
>> stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
>> worked. Can anyone guess the reason?
>
>The stronger anti-freeze further drops the cold sensor readings.
>

Has someone developed a new law of physics???
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I wrote:
> One morning in the winter, several years ago when I lived in
Ontario,
> Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix? Putting a
> stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I know why it
> worked. Can anyone guess the reason?


Further information:

The vehicle in question was an 82 Mazda B2000, so it did not have
fuel injection.

By "would not start" I meant it cranked fine but would not fire. The
anti-freeze I put in had been stored in an unheated garage, so was no
warmer than the coolant already in the engine. Outside air temp was
about 0 Fahrenheit. When I removed the rad cap to check the coolant
there was no sign of freezing, but its strength as measured with my
a-f checker showed it should be good to about 0 - 5 Fahrenheit.

The effect was immediate: it would not start - I drained some coolant
and put in anti-freeze - it started right away.

Here's a hint: The fuel system was not stock.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004, nooobody wrote:

> in Ontario, Canada, my Maza pickup truck would not start. The fix?
> Putting a stronger anti-freeze solution into the cooling system. I
> know why it worked. Can anyone guess the reason?

I can guess: Mel Lastman caught wind of you going online with a handle
that mimicked his obnoxious "Nooooobody!" commercials and flamed you. Some
of the heat warmed up your POS Mazda and it started.