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Christopher Muto May 8th 06 05:46 PM

Shock mounts
 
I am looking to replace my shocks on a '95 with 110k. I am going with the
basic KYB GR-2 shock and was wondering if replacing the shock mounts and
boots is also necessary. Surprisingly the mounts are more expensive than
the shocks. KYB mounts from tirerack are $50 each and oem from
finishlineperformance are $78 each. Any opinions about those? All feedback
is appreciated. Thanks.



Chris D'Agnolo May 8th 06 06:14 PM

Shock mounts
 
I don't think there's a need to replace any kind of 'mounts'. Now, the
boots, if they are all weathered / cracked and falling apart probably should
be replaced but they are a bit expensive for what amounts to a dust /
debris shield. I don't mind admitting that I hadn't even considered that way
back when I first did that to my 92 and I was too deep into it to stop or go
back. Two of mine were allright and two were pretty crappy. I got
'creative'! The new shocks came in heavy plastic sleeves and I simply used
those sleeves (like a heavy duty plastic bag shaped like the shock) to
replace the two bad ones. I simply zip tied them top and bottom. I drove the
car in Houston weather for 5 yrs and 65k that way and they were holding up
fine, no holes or problems.

Chris
99BBB


"Christopher Muto" > wrote in message
news:lBK7g.1886$Zf3.760@trndny01...
>I am looking to replace my shocks on a '95 with 110k. I am going with the
>basic KYB GR-2 shock and was wondering if replacing the shock mounts and
>boots is also necessary. Surprisingly the mounts are more expensive than
>the shocks. KYB mounts from tirerack are $50 each and oem from
>finishlineperformance are $78 each. Any opinions about those? All
>feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
>




Lanny Chambers May 8th 06 09:21 PM

Shock mounts
 
In article >,
"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:

> I don't think there's a need to replace any kind of 'mounts'. Now, the
> boots, if they are all weathered / cracked and falling apart probably should
> be replaced but they are a bit expensive for what amounts to a dust /
> debris shield.


Remember that the bumpstop is part of the dust boot. You need that.

--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Christopher Muto May 9th 06 12:30 AM

Shock mounts
 
"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:
>
>> I don't think there's a need to replace any kind of 'mounts'. Now, the
>> boots, if they are all weathered / cracked and falling apart probably
>> should
>> be replaced but they are a bit expensive for what amounts to a dust /
>> debris shield.

>
> Remember that the bumpstop is part of the dust boot. You need that.
>
> --
> Lanny Chambers
> '94C, St. Louis
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html


That is exactly what I was confused about. The KYB boots don't seem to have
the bumpstop and so I was thinking that I might need their mount for it to
work. Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at least the
old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda boots. The
OEM boots are expensive but I would hate to have the car apart and then
learn that I needed them... So I will get the OEM boots to go with the KYB
GR-2 unless there is a better recommendation for a basic set-up.
Thank you both for your replies.



Chris D'Agnolo May 9th 06 01:28 AM

Shock mounts
 
Glad you clarified that, I thought I was loosing my mind thinking, what
'mounts' is he talking about? Ya, I think the bump stops would do their job
even if they were separated from the original boots and reused, as long as
they weren't rotted and crumbling.

Chris
99BBB

"Christopher Muto" > wrote in message
news:pwQ7g.5006$Rf6.1765@trndny05...
> "Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think there's a need to replace any kind of 'mounts'. Now, the
>>> boots, if they are all weathered / cracked and falling apart probably
>>> should
>>> be replaced but they are a bit expensive for what amounts to a dust /
>>> debris shield.

>>
>> Remember that the bumpstop is part of the dust boot. You need that.
>>
>> --
>> Lanny Chambers
>> '94C, St. Louis
>> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

>
> That is exactly what I was confused about. The KYB boots don't seem to
> have the bumpstop and so I was thinking that I might need their mount for
> it to work. Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at
> least the old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda
> boots. The OEM boots are expensive but I would hate to have the car apart
> and then learn that I needed them... So I will get the OEM boots to go
> with the KYB GR-2 unless there is a better recommendation for a basic
> set-up.
> Thank you both for your replies.
>
>




Lanny Chambers May 9th 06 01:36 AM

Shock mounts
 
In article <pwQ7g.5006$Rf6.1765@trndny05>,
"Christopher Muto" > wrote:

> Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at least the
> old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda boots.


Those are two of your options. But I would use urethane bumpstops from
Flyin' Miata or Fat Cat Motorsports, with some cheap generic boots.
You'd gain a very useful amount of travel. That's my plan if I ever take
my suspension apart again.

--
Lanny Chambers
'94C, St. Louis
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Christopher Muto May 9th 06 04:48 AM

Shock mounts
 
Thanks again to both of you.

"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article <pwQ7g.5006$Rf6.1765@trndny05>,
> "Christopher Muto" > wrote:
>
>> Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at least the
>> old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda boots.

>
> Those are two of your options. But I would use urethane bumpstops from
> Flyin' Miata or Fat Cat Motorsports, with some cheap generic boots.
> You'd gain a very useful amount of travel. That's my plan if I ever take
> my suspension apart again.
>
> --
> Lanny Chambers
> '94C, St. Louis
> http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html




DBLZOOM May 9th 06 12:32 PM

Shock mounts
 
Since you are in there you may want to consider changing the rubber
pads that the springs sit on. I did not change mine and all of them
had holes where the end of the spring wore through the rubber. I now
have a squeek.


Christopher Muto wrote:
> Thanks again to both of you.
>
> "Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article <pwQ7g.5006$Rf6.1765@trndny05>,
> > "Christopher Muto" > wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at least the
> >> old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda boots.

> >
> > Those are two of your options. But I would use urethane bumpstops from
> > Flyin' Miata or Fat Cat Motorsports, with some cheap generic boots.
> > You'd gain a very useful amount of travel. That's my plan if I ever take
> > my suspension apart again.
> >
> > --
> > Lanny Chambers
> > '94C, St. Louis
> > http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html



Christopher Muto May 9th 06 01:46 PM

Shock mounts
 
thanks for that. do you happen to know where to get them?

"DBLZOOM" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Since you are in there you may want to consider changing the rubber
> pads that the springs sit on. I did not change mine and all of them
> had holes where the end of the spring wore through the rubber. I now
> have a squeek.
>
>
> Christopher Muto wrote:
>> Thanks again to both of you.
>>
>> "Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article <pwQ7g.5006$Rf6.1765@trndny05>,
>> > "Christopher Muto" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at least the
>> >> old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda boots.
>> >
>> > Those are two of your options. But I would use urethane bumpstops from
>> > Flyin' Miata or Fat Cat Motorsports, with some cheap generic boots.
>> > You'd gain a very useful amount of travel. That's my plan if I ever
>> > take
>> > my suspension apart again.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lanny Chambers
>> > '94C, St. Louis
>> > http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

>




Scott Hughes May 9th 06 03:09 PM

Shock mounts
 
Lanny Chambers > wrote in news:lanny-
:

> In article <pwQ7g.5006$Rf6.1765@trndny05>,
> "Christopher Muto" > wrote:
>
>> Sounds like I really just need to reuse the old boots or at least the
>> old bumpstop from the old boots or just get new genuine Mazda boots.

>
> Those are two of your options. But I would use urethane bumpstops from
> Flyin' Miata or Fat Cat Motorsports, with some cheap generic boots.
> You'd gain a very useful amount of travel. That's my plan if I ever take
> my suspension apart again.
>


You can get the KYB Boots w/ integrated bump stops for $13 ea ($52 for all
4). FlyinMiata sells the polyurethane bump stops for $31 a pair, add about
$7.50 a pair generic boots for a total of $77. I know $25 isn't a huge
difference when you're looking at the cost of replacing shocks, but why is
the seperate polyurethane boot option significantly superior?

-Scott


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