88 Fox poor starting
 

"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
> it.finally
> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
> engine.
> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
> clinton book.
> Thanks Moony
>

Dav your always a big help would you have a answer for my qeustion????
moony
"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message
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> "Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
>> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
>> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
>> it.finally
>> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
>> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
>> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
>> engine.
>> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
>> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
>> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
>> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
>> clinton book.
>> Thanks Moony
>>
>
>

Dav your always a big help would you have a answer for my qeustion????
moony
"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message
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> "Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
>> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
>> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
>> it.finally
>> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
>> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
>> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
>> engine.
>> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
>> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
>> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
>> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
>> clinton book.
>> Thanks Moony
>>
>
>

goes to the 5th injector for cold starts

goes to the 5th injector for cold starts

>From: "Lambert Moonen"
>
>Dav your always a big help would you have a answer for my qeustion????
>moony
>"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message
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>> "Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
>>> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
>>> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
>>> it.finally
>>> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
>>> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
>>> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
>>> engine.
>>> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
>>> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
>>> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
>>> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
>>> clinton book.
>>> Thanks Moony
>>>
>>

Someone mentioned the cold start valve (AKA 5th fuel injector).
The extra wire on the starter solenoid eventually makes it to the cold start
valve to power it and aid in faster starts. It might go through a temperature
switch also.
There is a ground wire that needs to be checked also.
I just don't have it committed to memory. <:-)

later,
dave
Reminder........
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way,
when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you have their
shoes. Frieda Norris

>From: "Lambert Moonen"
>
>Dav your always a big help would you have a answer for my qeustion????
>moony
>"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message
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>> "Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
>>> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
>>> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
>>> it.finally
>>> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
>>> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
>>> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
>>> engine.
>>> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
>>> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
>>> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
>>> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
>>> clinton book.
>>> Thanks Moony
>>>
>>

Someone mentioned the cold start valve (AKA 5th fuel injector).
The extra wire on the starter solenoid eventually makes it to the cold start
valve to power it and aid in faster starts. It might go through a temperature
switch also.
There is a ground wire that needs to be checked also.
I just don't have it committed to memory. <:-)

later,
dave
Reminder........
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way,
when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them, and you have their
shoes. Frieda Norris

Dave Would you be able to expliane to me the function of the thermo switch
and connection to starter motor because you know wher you are talking about.
thanks moony
"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message
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> "Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
>> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
>> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
>> it.finally
>> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
>> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
>> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
>> engine.
>> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
>> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
>> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
>> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
>> clinton book.
>> Thanks Moony
>>
>
>

Dave Would you be able to expliane to me the function of the thermo switch
and connection to starter motor because you know wher you are talking about.
thanks moony
"Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message
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>
> "Lambert Moonen" > wrote in message news:...
>> have been on this site before with my problems 88 Fox for over a year I
>> had trouble to start it .some mechanic screwed it up and could not fix
>> it.finally
>> an old friend of mine looked at it and found a crack
>> in the distrubitor cap. placed new one and it starts like a charme. My
>> qeustion is i figured the problem was in all the electronic gismos on the
>> engine.
>> My Clinton book shows a wire terminal15A on the solenoid going to the
>> thermo switch can any one explain the function of this wire I never seen
>> this wire before on my old V.W. beetles. what is the function ? does
>> current go to thermo switch or the other way. can find no answer in de
>> clinton book.
>> Thanks Moony
>>
>
>

Lambert Moonen wrote:
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> Dave Would you be able to expliane to me the function of the thermo switch
> and connection to starter motor because you know wher you are talking about.
> thanks moony


I am no Dave, but I have worked on CIS-e a bit. The switch is actually
referred to as a thermo-time-switch. It has a bimetal type switch and a
small heating element in it. When the switch goes above a certain
temperature it opens up. It is heated both by the engine and by the
heating element. After you apply power, it will heat up and then shut
off. The colder the engine is, the longer it will take to shut off. The
delay time can be as high as a dozen or so seconds. If the engine is
warm, the switch will be off and stay off.

The switch turns on the cold start valve (the fifth injector) and the
goal is to turn it on when you first turn the key to "start" and then
turn it off shortly thereafter. Thus the connection to the starter
solenoid. If the car doesn't start on the first attempt, the second
attempt will give little or no cold-start valve action, as the thermo
time switch was already heated on the first attempt.