rFactor won't run
 

Win 98 SE. Installed DX 9 from MS website. Setup runs OK, but
program crashes on launch with the standard "illegal operation".

Suggestions?

Pat Dotson

Are your graphics drivers up to date?


Pat Dotson wrote:
> Win 98 SE. Installed DX 9 from MS website. Setup runs OK, but
> program crashes on launch with the standard "illegal operation".
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Pat Dotson

> (Pat Dotson) wrote in
> m:
>
>> Win 98 SE. Installed DX 9 from MS website. Setup runs OK, but
>> program crashes on launch with the standard "illegal operation".
>>
>> Suggestions?

all I can say is it runs ok on my 98se box (nvidia 4800se, dx 9.0c,
driver 45.xx)

hang in there!

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No, probably not. Thanks for the reminder. I'll try that next.

Pat

Matthew Jessick > wrote in message
> Are your graphics drivers up to date?
>
> > Win 98 SE. Installed DX 9 from MS website. Setup runs OK, but
> > program crashes on launch with the standard "illegal operation".
> >
> > Suggestions?

Hey! Installing new display drivers worked. But the frame rate
completely sucks. Athlon 1500+ and GeForce 4 MX 440.

Am I stuck until the next CPU/video upgrade? Would a newer video card
help? Or do I need to upgrade video and CPU both?

BTW, by "sucks", I'm talking drops down into the teens.

Pat Dotson


(Pat Dotson) wrote in message > No, probably not. Thanks for the reminder. I'll try that next.
>
> Matthew Jessick > wrote in message
> > Are your graphics drivers up to date?
> >
> > > Win 98 SE. Installed DX 9 from MS website. Setup runs OK, but
> > > program crashes on launch with the standard "illegal operation".
> > >
> > > Suggestions?

Joachim Trensz > wrote in
:

> Dave Henrie wrote:
> ...
>> You are two generations behind in cpu power and 3 generations late in
>> Video processing. You certainly don't have a slow system, but to run
>> the newest sims, you'll need to think about more....lots more.
>
> I agree on most of what you say, but all he needs to get a decent
> image quality and fps for rF is an ATI 9600. I've tried one in my
> system, and while I had to set all graphics quality options to Medium
> instead of full, I get around 45 to 50 fps most everywhere and still
> good image quality. That's with 2xAA and 4xAniso. That gfx card costs
> ~ €80.-
>

but you are still limiting your future. And remember, this is a cripled
demo. I suspect the final processing/video requirements will be at least
somewhat higher with the final release. My son has an ati 9500 pro and it
runs even doom3 without too much trouble. But as we start piling on
dynamic lighting effects and more cars and the full physics package. I
think both his cpu and vidcard will be strained.

dh

Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm going to pick up an Athlon 2400+
and a Radeon 9600. My motherboard will support that CPU, so it will
be a fairly cheap upgrade. Unfortunately, the mobo only does 4X AGP.
I currently have 256 Mb DDR memory. Hope that isn't a limitation.
Another 128 Mb is only $30 though.

Rfactor looks great. When it is supposed to be released?

(Scoob Droolins) wrote in message
> Hi Pat -
>
> A GeForce 4 MX 440 is really a GeForce 2-level chip. Almost any video
> card you would buy today for $50 or more (like a Radeon 9600) would be
> miles better, and that alone would make a big improvement in your game
> (until the next big thing, of course).
>
> joe
> image space

Joachim Trensz > wrote in message >...
> Dave Henrie wrote:
> ...
> > You are two generations behind in cpu power and 3 generations late in Video
> > processing. You certainly don't have a slow system, but to run the newest
> > sims, you'll need to think about more....lots more.
>
> I agree on most of what you say, but all he needs to get a decent image
> quality and fps for rF is an ATI 9600. I've tried one in my system, and
> while I had to set all graphics quality options to Medium instead of
> full, I get around 45 to 50 fps most everywhere and still good image
> quality. That's with 2xAA and 4xAniso. That gfx card costs ~ €80.-

I can confirm fFactor runs very acceptably with a 9600 on normal settings.

Pat,

not long ago, Was a discussion replying to me, one similiar question
about 4x vs 8x AGP's and stuff, consensus of the article they linked me to
was that there was 3-6% difference in perfomance from same motherboard that
could be set to 4x, & also set to 8x agp... I think it was a tiny bit
older cards, newer ones might be slowly putting 8x "demands" on AGP but
prolly not all the time.

Pat Dotson enlightened us with:
> Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm going to pick up an Athlon 2400+
> and a Radeon 9600. My motherboard will support that CPU, so it will
> be a fairly cheap upgrade. Unfortunately, the mobo only does 4X AGP.
> I currently have 256 Mb DDR memory. Hope that isn't a limitation.
> Another 128 Mb is only $30 though.
>
> Rfactor looks great. When it is supposed to be released?
>
> (Scoob Droolins) wrote in message
>> Hi Pat -
>>
>> A GeForce 4 MX 440 is really a GeForce 2-level chip. Almost any
>> video card you would buy today for $50 or more (like a Radeon 9600)
>> would be miles better, and that alone would make a big improvement
>> in your game (until the next big thing, of course).
>>
>> joe
>> image space

I ended up with a 2600+ Sempron. Supposed to run at 1830 MHz, but
seems to run OK OC'd to 2200 MHz, so that's good. Had to get a new
mobo since old one didn't support the Sempron. New board has 8X agp
so that's also good. Picked up a Radeon 9550 too. Still running DDR
2700 memory though, so that needs to be replaced soon.

F1 2002 looks great maxed out. It's always nice to be able to turn on
all the detail for the first time. Haven't been able to fire up
rFactor yet since my Win 98 installation is hosed at the moment. Win
XP installed on a second HD is running fine.

On the Win 98 issue... Before installing the new Radeon, I removed
all the old video card drivers. Seems to also have removed the
standard display adapters from Win 98 as well. The new Radeon driver
won't install unless there is already a standard VGA or SVGA adapter
installed. On top of that, my Win 98 SE CD is missing, so I can't
re-install. Can the Win 98 standard display drivers be found online
anywhere?

Thanks,

Pat Dotson


"Plowboy2" > wrote in message news:<U0umd.11$wC.7@lakeread08>...
> Pat,
>
> not long ago, Was a discussion replying to me, one similiar question
> about 4x vs 8x AGP's and stuff, consensus of the article they linked me to
> was that there was 3-6% difference in perfomance from same motherboard that
> could be set to 4x, & also set to 8x agp... I think it was a tiny bit
> older cards, newer ones might be slowly putting 8x "demands" on AGP but
> prolly not all the time.
>
> Pat Dotson enlightened us with:
> > Thanks for the replies everyone! I'm going to pick up an Athlon 2400+
> > and a Radeon 9600. My motherboard will support that CPU, so it will
> > be a fairly cheap upgrade. Unfortunately, the mobo only does 4X AGP.
> > I currently have 256 Mb DDR memory. Hope that isn't a limitation.
> > Another 128 Mb is only $30 though.
> >
> > Rfactor looks great. When it is supposed to be released?
> >
> > (Scoob Droolins) wrote in message
> >> Hi Pat -
> >>
> >> A GeForce 4 MX 440 is really a GeForce 2-level chip. Almost any
> >> video card you would buy today for $50 or more (like a Radeon 9600)
> >> would be miles better, and that alone would make a big improvement
> >> in your game (until the next big thing, of course).
> >>
> >> joe
> >> image space

In article >,
(Pat Dotson) writes:

>On the Win 98 issue... Before installing the new Radeon, I removed
>all the old video card drivers. Seems to also have removed the
>standard display adapters from Win 98 as well. The new Radeon driver
>won't install unless there is already a standard VGA or SVGA adapter
>installed. On top of that, my Win 98 SE CD is missing, so I can't
>re-install. Can the Win 98 standard display drivers be found online
>anywhere?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pat Dotson

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