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'63 bug - stock tire question
Hi folks,
I know this has been discussed at length before, but I just want to be sure before I put the tires on my '63, with the original wheels. Is it best to go with: 1) Radials with tubes, 2) Radials without tubes, 3) Bias-belted without tubes. What are the drawbacks of using tubes with radials? What are the drawbacks (or positives) of using bias-belted tires? The 61-65 Bentley basically discourages the use of radials entirely... '63 wheels are suitable for tubeless bias tires, or radials with tubes, but I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s cars. The 1961-65 Bentley Manual even says to use tubes with radials, but I was wondering how many were out there like this? Thanks, Dane '69 Bug '63 Bug |
On 13 Dec 2004 10:18:21 -0800, "Dane Tyler" > wrote:
>Hi folks, > >I know this has been discussed at length before, but I just want to be >sure before I put the tires on my '63, with the original wheels. > >Is it best to go with: > >1) Radials with tubes, >2) Radials without tubes, >3) Bias-belted without tubes. > >What are the drawbacks of using tubes with radials? What are the >drawbacks (or positives) of using bias-belted tires? The 61-65 Bentley >basically discourages the use of radials entirely... > >'63 wheels are suitable for tubeless bias tires, or radials with tubes, >but I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s >cars. The 1961-65 Bentley Manual even says to use tubes with radials, >but I was wondering how many were out there like this? >Thanks, I have 165x15 radials on my '66 and I hate them. They look way to fat, I just love the original narrow look of the original crossplies. I keep promising that I will switch back to crossplies as soon as I wear out these radials, but they are too damn hard wearing!! he he Can't remember if they had tubes in them, but I don't think they did. If you want radial tyres, then try and get 155x15 instead. If you don't drive like a maniac, then you can't beat crossplies on a stock car - they're not as nasty and dangerous as people make them out to be. |
In article .com>,
"Dane Tyler" > wrote: > I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s > cars. I have radials without tubes on my '61 and they work just fine. -- ___ |___| '61 - VW (o\_|_/o) Bug! ALEA -- 35.9 BHP and not a bit more! _U_____U_ |
I believe the swing axle cars all had 155-15. The Mexican Beetle I drove in 2003 in Mexico had 155-15 tires on it too.
"John Crichton" > wrote in message news:nDtvd.566410$D%.217563@attbi_s51... > I think I used to know what the tire size that originally shipped on a > '64/'65 Beetle but that info has apparently been erased. Can someone > refresh my memory. If I recall the tire sizes back then weren't even > expressed the way we do now (i.e. 155R15). I assume that they were bias > ply polyester belted tires but again I could be mistaken. > > Dane Tyler wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I know this has been discussed at length before, but I just want to be > > sure before I put the tires on my '63, with the original wheels. > > > > Is it best to go with: > > > > 1) Radials with tubes, > > 2) Radials without tubes, > > 3) Bias-belted without tubes. > > > > What are the drawbacks of using tubes with radials? What are the > > drawbacks (or positives) of using bias-belted tires? The 61-65 Bentley > > basically discourages the use of radials entirely... > > > > '63 wheels are suitable for tubeless bias tires, or radials with tubes, > > but I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s > > cars. The 1961-65 Bentley Manual even says to use tubes with radials, > > but I was wondering how many were out there like this? > > Thanks, > > > > Dane > > '69 Bug > > '63 Bug > > |
OEM bias size was 5.60 x 15, although 6.00 x 15 is common replacement.
For radials, 155R15 was the equivalent size and recommended replacement, although 165R15 is used predominantly today. I'm leaning towards getting the bias tires for my car ('63), but something tells me that may not be totally pleased with them. There's a reason that most every new car for the past 30 years has had radial tires... Oh well, we shall see. Dane Tyler '69 Bug '63 sunroof Bug John Crichton wrote: > I think I used to know what the tire size that originally shipped on a > '64/'65 Beetle but that info has apparently been erased. Can someone > refresh my memory. If I recall the tire sizes back then weren't even > expressed the way we do now (i.e. 155R15). I assume that they were bias > ply polyester belted tires but again I could be mistaken. > > Dane Tyler wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I know this has been discussed at length before, but I just want to be > > sure before I put the tires on my '63, with the original wheels. > > > > Is it best to go with: > > > > 1) Radials with tubes, > > 2) Radials without tubes, > > 3) Bias-belted without tubes. > > > > What are the drawbacks of using tubes with radials? What are the > > drawbacks (or positives) of using bias-belted tires? The 61-65 Bentley > > basically discourages the use of radials entirely... > > > > '63 wheels are suitable for tubeless bias tires, or radials with tubes, > > but I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s > > cars. The 1961-65 Bentley Manual even says to use tubes with radials, > > but I was wondering how many were out there like this? > > Thanks, > > > > Dane > > '69 Bug > > '63 Bug > > |
OEM bias size was 5.60 x 15, although 6.00 x 15 is common replacement.
For radials, 155R15 was the equivalent size and recommended replacement, although 165R15 is used predominantly today. I'm leaning towards getting the bias tires for my car ('63), but something tells me that may not be totally pleased with them. There's a reason that most every new car for the past 30 years has had radial tires... Oh well, we shall see. Dane Tyler '69 Bug '63 sunroof Bug John Crichton wrote: > I think I used to know what the tire size that originally shipped on a > '64/'65 Beetle but that info has apparently been erased. Can someone > refresh my memory. If I recall the tire sizes back then weren't even > expressed the way we do now (i.e. 155R15). I assume that they were bias > ply polyester belted tires but again I could be mistaken. > > Dane Tyler wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I know this has been discussed at length before, but I just want to be > > sure before I put the tires on my '63, with the original wheels. > > > > Is it best to go with: > > > > 1) Radials with tubes, > > 2) Radials without tubes, > > 3) Bias-belted without tubes. > > > > What are the drawbacks of using tubes with radials? What are the > > drawbacks (or positives) of using bias-belted tires? The 61-65 Bentley > > basically discourages the use of radials entirely... > > > > '63 wheels are suitable for tubeless bias tires, or radials with tubes, > > but I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s > > cars. The 1961-65 Bentley Manual even says to use tubes with radials, > > but I was wondering how many were out there like this? > > Thanks, > > > > Dane > > '69 Bug > > '63 Bug > > |
In article . com>,
"Dane Tyler" > wrote: > OEM bias size was 5.60 x 15, although 6.00 x 15 is common replacement. That size sounds familiar! I have an old Firestone bias ply 5.60 x 15 as the spare as anything bigger wouldn't fit in the OEM location. -- ___ |___| '61 - VW (o\_|_/o) Bug! ALEA -- 35.9 BHP and not a bit more! _U_____U_ |
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 04:04:35 GMT, John Crichton >
wrote: >I think I used to know what the tire size that originally shipped on a >'64/'65 Beetle but that info has apparently been erased. 5.60x15 crossply. Euro-spec cars had Michelin from 1965, but I believe US-spec cars had different ones? Unfortunately Michelin no longer make a 5.60x15 crossply tyre, but Camacs look almost identical. -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website) |
On 14 Dec 2004 10:04:22 -0800, "Dane Tyler" > wrote:
>I'm leaning towards getting the bias tires for my car ('63), but >something tells me that may not be totally pleased with them. There's a >reason that most every new car for the past 30 years has had radial >tires... Modern cars are also more reliable, comfortable, faster, better MPG, have working heaters... but I don't want one ;-) -- Howard Rose 1966 VW Beetle 1300 Deluxe 1962 Austin Mini Deluxe 1964 Austin Mini Super Deluxe http://www.howard81.co.uk/ (cars on website) |
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