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[email protected] March 5th 05 10:36 PM

undercoating
 
my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.

Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com


L.W.(ßill) Hughes III March 5th 05 11:03 PM

Hi Sandman,
I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

wrote:
>
> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
>
http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com


Dave Milne March 5th 05 11:07 PM

I wouldn't.
I wouldn't trust any numpty ( Scottish word for idiot) wax my car for fear
they would use a rotary buffer and leave swirl marks. And getting your
underbody properly waxoyled costs a hell of a lot more than $162 over here -
can't see them spending the time to do it properly.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> wrote in message
ups.com...
> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>




Dave Lee March 5th 05 11:10 PM

My buddy is the former head mechanic at a now defunct Pontiac dealer,and he
said it was a big money maker for the dealer. It was the Rusty Jones stuff
way back when, maybe 25years or so.
"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
. uk...
>I wouldn't.
> I wouldn't trust any numpty ( Scottish word for idiot) wax my car for fear
> they would use a rotary buffer and leave swirl marks. And getting your
> underbody properly waxoyled costs a hell of a lot more than $162 over
> here -
> can't see them spending the time to do it properly.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>>

>
>




DougW March 5th 05 11:25 PM

montanajeeper did pass the time by typing:
> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.


IMHO, a waste of money.
Cars come factory undercoated and in several cases adding
addional undercoating voids the factory rust warantee.
Besides which, all they do is rattle-can on undercoating you
could do yourself for $30 or less.

As for waxing, that's pure bull****. The dealer should detail
your car for delivery as a part of the service. Seriously, clean
it yourself, that way some lowbuck trainee doesn't scratch the
paint before you can.

--
DougW



twaldron March 6th 05 12:55 AM

Damn, Nathan. waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.
As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.

wrote:
> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>
> Nathan W. Collier
>
http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>


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Nathan W. Collier March 6th 05 01:41 AM

"twaldron" > wrote in message
m...
> waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.


i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge you
$15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.

> As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.


ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would
make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com



mabar March 6th 05 03:00 AM

My '02 TJ has a LOT of undercarriage rust. Of course, Cleveland Ohio winters
and TONS of salt on the roads don't help. I think I am going to have my next
new vehicle undercoated by Ziebart. Do you have a Ziebart near you Nathan?
If so, you might want to talk to them first, before making a decision.

http://www.ziebart.com/prodServicesMain.htm

I would NOT trust the dealer to do a proper job.

Tom

"Nathan W. Collier" > wrote in message
...
> "twaldron" > wrote in message
> m...
> > waxing is part of Dealer Prep and is included in the MSRP.

>
> i dont think that applies if youre paying green sheet. they even charge

you
> $15 for the gas that comes in the tank, undertandably.
>
> > As far as undercoating, if I _was_ going to do it, I'd do it myself.

>
> ive often wondered why people rhino line the inside of their tubs. would
> make more sense to me to rhino line the under side of the tub.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo March 6th 05 04:26 AM

keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will see
salted roads all winter, as does mine. Bill's pictures are referring to a TJ
that had already seen 4 Michigan winters when those pics were taken. If the
undercoating has gaps or open bubbles, salt will collect in those spots. My
advice, skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every
month in winter.

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Sandman,
> I'd would let them do it. Maybe quiz the guy that will be doing it,
> to make sure he doesn't spray any of the cases causing any overheating
> problem that will destroy their lubricants. Making sure he doesn't close
> any body drain holes. And look, Daimler doesn't bother to paint the
> undercarriage: http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> wrote:
>>
>> my rubicon hasnt arrived yet but my dealership was preparing my
>> paperwork so that we could get everything done in advance. he asked if
>> i wanted the undercoating/detail for $162. he said they undercoat the
>> entire undercarraige and then detail/wax the jeep. i dont care about
>> the waxing part, but im wondering if the undercoat they do is worth
>> doing or if its a waste of $162. thanks.
>>
>> Nathan W. Collier
>>
http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan W. Collier March 6th 05 04:38 AM

"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
...
> keep in mind that since you have snow all winter (as do I) your TJ will
> see salted roads all winter


im lucky in that respect. montana doesnt use salt, instead they put out
dirt and gravel.


> skip the undercoating and power-wash the underside of the Jeep every month
> in winter.


definately. ive always washed my undercarraige with more care than my body
panels. im working on installing a floor drain in my garage for that very
reason.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




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