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Raven August 11th 04 12:44 PM

My alternator problems are driving me crazy! Please some help here.
 
Last January I had the alternator in my 97 SC-2 changed. The reason
for the change was that the ABS light kept coming on. I was advised
from this group that the reason for this light coming on was that the
alternator was going bad and not putting out enough power for the ABS
system.
So even though the alternator tested ok, I had the alternator changed.
Things have been going ok for a few months but then, about a month
ago, the ABS light started coming on, usually but not always when the
a/c was engaged. Also I noticed that the Dash lights were flickering
slightly.

So back to machanic I went. Of course the alternator tested ok, but
since the alternator was still under warrenty(one year for a factory
rebuilt) my guy put a new alternator in yesterday.

Driving on the highway last night with headlights and a/c going the
alt light flickered momentarily and then the ABS light came on. This
was unusual because the
ABS light almost always came on right after the ABS system tested
itself at 8mph, usually with the a/c running.

In anycase, I've got this new alternator in. It couldn't have gone bad
so fast, could it? Is there anything that we are overlooking that
could cause the alternator to under power the car. Should my guy be
checking for bad wiring or something like that?

This makes it the car's forth alternator. The original one was
changed in Oct. 03. Then in Jan 04 after the ABS light started coming
on. And now yesterday.
This is not normal. The Battery is about 3 months old. What gives?

Thanks in advance for any help.

jdoe August 11th 04 02:10 PM

It sounds more like you're chasing a bad ground somewhere. This is the
problem with just "shotgunning" instead of doing real troubleshooting. If
you're not sure how to track this down get it to a qualified tech. Throwing
alternators at this will not fix it.
Larry
"Raven" > wrote in message
om...
> Last January I had the alternator in my 97 SC-2 changed. The reason
> for the change was that the ABS light kept coming on. I was advised
> from this group that the reason for this light coming on was that the
> alternator was going bad and not putting out enough power for the ABS
> system.
> So even though the alternator tested ok, I had the alternator changed.
> Things have been going ok for a few months but then, about a month
> ago, the ABS light started coming on, usually but not always when the
> a/c was engaged. Also I noticed that the Dash lights were flickering
> slightly.
>
> So back to machanic I went. Of course the alternator tested ok, but
> since the alternator was still under warrenty(one year for a factory
> rebuilt) my guy put a new alternator in yesterday.
>
> Driving on the highway last night with headlights and a/c going the
> alt light flickered momentarily and then the ABS light came on. This
> was unusual because the
> ABS light almost always came on right after the ABS system tested
> itself at 8mph, usually with the a/c running.
>
> In anycase, I've got this new alternator in. It couldn't have gone bad
> so fast, could it? Is there anything that we are overlooking that
> could cause the alternator to under power the car. Should my guy be
> checking for bad wiring or something like that?
>
> This makes it the car's forth alternator. The original one was
> changed in Oct. 03. Then in Jan 04 after the ABS light started coming
> on. And now yesterday.
> This is not normal. The Battery is about 3 months old. What gives?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.




Patrick Usenet Cannon August 11th 04 02:58 PM

In article >,
(Raven) wrote:

> Last January I had the alternator in my 97 SC-2 changed. The reason
> for the change was that the ABS light kept coming on. I was advised
> from this group that the reason for this light coming on was that the
> alternator was going bad and not putting out enough power for the ABS
> system.
> So even though the alternator tested ok, I had the alternator changed.
> Things have been going ok for a few months but then, about a month
> ago, the ABS light started coming on, usually but not always when the
> a/c was engaged. Also I noticed that the Dash lights were flickering
> slightly.
>
> So back to machanic I went. Of course the alternator tested ok, but
> since the alternator was still under warrenty(one year for a factory
> rebuilt) my guy put a new alternator in yesterday.
>
> Driving on the highway last night with headlights and a/c going the
> alt light flickered momentarily and then the ABS light came on. This
> was unusual because the
> ABS light almost always came on right after the ABS system tested
> itself at 8mph, usually with the a/c running.
>
> In anycase, I've got this new alternator in. It couldn't have gone bad
> so fast, could it? Is there anything that we are overlooking that
> could cause the alternator to under power the car. Should my guy be
> checking for bad wiring or something like that?
>
> This makes it the car's forth alternator. The original one was
> changed in Oct. 03. Then in Jan 04 after the ABS light started coming
> on. And now yesterday.
> This is not normal. The Battery is about 3 months old. What gives?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.


I went through three alternators (over several years, though) and
eventually found that the power steering pump was leaking fluid onto the
alternator.

PC

Blah Blah August 11th 04 04:23 PM

I say it could be the ground as well. Could also be a bad battery, swap
it with one in a nother car. While your at it check for corrosion on the
connectors. Make sure everythings making good contact.

In article <UUoSc.286314$Oq2.258315@attbi_s52>, says...
> It sounds more like you're chasing a bad ground somewhere. This is the
> problem with just "shotgunning" instead of doing real troubleshooting. If
> you're not sure how to track this down get it to a qualified tech. Throwing
> alternators at this will not fix it.
> Larry
> "Raven" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Last January I had the alternator in my 97 SC-2 changed. The reason
> > for the change was that the ABS light kept coming on. I was advised
> > from this group that the reason for this light coming on was that the
> > alternator was going bad and not putting out enough power for the ABS
> > system.
> > So even though the alternator tested ok, I had the alternator changed.
> > Things have been going ok for a few months but then, about a month
> > ago, the ABS light started coming on, usually but not always when the
> > a/c was engaged. Also I noticed that the Dash lights were flickering
> > slightly.
> >
> > So back to machanic I went. Of course the alternator tested ok, but
> > since the alternator was still under warrenty(one year for a factory
> > rebuilt) my guy put a new alternator in yesterday.
> >
> > Driving on the highway last night with headlights and a/c going the
> > alt light flickered momentarily and then the ABS light came on. This
> > was unusual because the
> > ABS light almost always came on right after the ABS system tested
> > itself at 8mph, usually with the a/c running.
> >
> > In anycase, I've got this new alternator in. It couldn't have gone bad
> > so fast, could it? Is there anything that we are overlooking that
> > could cause the alternator to under power the car. Should my guy be
> > checking for bad wiring or something like that?
> >
> > This makes it the car's forth alternator. The original one was
> > changed in Oct. 03. Then in Jan 04 after the ABS light started coming
> > on. And now yesterday.
> > This is not normal. The Battery is about 3 months old. What gives?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.

>
>
>


Raven August 21st 04 03:02 AM

I just want to take the time to thank everyone who replied to my post.
At your suggestions my mechanic checked every electrical connection
and although he couldn't visibly spot a loose ground wire, the action
of removing each connection and putting it back has solved this
problem. The lights no longer flicker and I can run all the
accesories (a/c, defroster, wipers, headlights, etc) without the ABS
system shutting down.
My guy spoke to mechanics who do a lot of work on Saturns, and this
loose ground is a common problem on Saturns. In any case, my car is
running better than it has in over a year.

Thanks



"M. Butkus" > wrote in message >...
> Make sure you have GOOD ground wire to the car frame.
> If the battery is showing 13.5V when the engine is running. Everything with
> the alt is fine.
>
>
> "Raven" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Last January I had the alternator in my 97 SC-2 changed. The reason
> > for the change was that the ABS light kept coming on. I was advised
> > from this group that the reason for this light coming on was that the
> > alternator was going bad and not putting out enough power for the ABS
> > system.
> > So even though the alternator tested ok, I had the alternator changed.
> > Things have been going ok for a few months but then, about a month
> > ago, the ABS light started coming on, usually but not always when the
> > a/c was engaged. Also I noticed that the Dash lights were flickering
> > slightly.
> >
> > So back to machanic I went. Of course the alternator tested ok, but
> > since the alternator was still under warrenty(one year for a factory
> > rebuilt) my guy put a new alternator in yesterday.
> >
> > Driving on the highway last night with headlights and a/c going the
> > alt light flickered momentarily and then the ABS light came on. This
> > was unusual because the
> > ABS light almost always came on right after the ABS system tested
> > itself at 8mph, usually with the a/c running.
> >
> > In anycase, I've got this new alternator in. It couldn't have gone bad
> > so fast, could it? Is there anything that we are overlooking that
> > could cause the alternator to under power the car. Should my guy be
> > checking for bad wiring or something like that?
> >
> > This makes it the car's forth alternator. The original one was
> > changed in Oct. 03. Then in Jan 04 after the ABS light started coming
> > on. And now yesterday.
> > This is not normal. The Battery is about 3 months old. What gives?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help.


Blah Blah August 21st 04 05:58 AM

Oxidation on a connector perhaps.

In article >,
says...
> I just want to take the time to thank everyone who replied to my post.
> At your suggestions my mechanic checked every electrical connection
> and although he couldn't visibly spot a loose ground wire, the action
> of removing each connection and putting it back has solved this
> problem. The lights no longer flicker and I can run all the
> accesories (a/c, defroster, wipers, headlights, etc) without the ABS
> system shutting down.
> My guy spoke to mechanics who do a lot of work on Saturns, and this
> loose ground is a common problem on Saturns. In any case, my car is
> running better than it has in over a year.
>
> Thanks
>


Philip Nasadowski August 22nd 04 12:19 AM

In article >,
(Raven) wrote:

> My guy spoke to mechanics who do a lot of work on Saturns, and this
> loose ground is a common problem on Saturns. In any case, my car is
> running better than it has in over a year.


Loose ground, or corroded terminals, etc etc etc.

My Harley, with it's motor (bumped to 95 inches + 11.5:1 CR, etc. Yes,
it's a lot of fun >:) is really sensitive to loose ANYTHING in the
starting system. I had to really crank down on the ground connections
once, because the thing acted like a dead battery when you'd start it.

I'm guessing the ground stud, alternator, starter, and other high
current lines on my Saturn could use a clean up too.

It really doesn't take much on a car's starting system - only a fraction
of an ohm in the circuit, and things get sluggish.

BTW, you can in fact get replacements for those bolts that hold the
battery cables on, and they're fairly easy to find and cheap. If yours
are chewed up, it's not a bad idea to replace them, and also clean
corrosion off of the battery and the cables.

Ground noise can also give the computer a headache, and is probbably bad
for the charging system, too.


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