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"Toby Groves" > wrote in message
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> In article >, Tha Ghee
> > writes
> >"Randy S" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> >a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500
> >>
> >> Well, then again the A8 compares to the S-class, not the E-class.
> >Compare the A6 to the E-class to be fair...
> >>
> >> Randy
> >
> >but the A-8 has no V-12 so how can it compare to the S-class??
>
> You mean the S-Class has no W-16, so how can it compare to the A-8?
> --
> Toby

the A8 doesn't have a W-16 here, only the V-8

"Tha Ghee" > wrote in message >...
> "Toby Groves" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, Tha Ghee
> > > writes
> > >"Randy S" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> >a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500
> > >>
> > >> Well, then again the A8 compares to the S-class, not the E-class.
> Compare the A6 to the E-class to be fair...
> > >>
> > >> Randy
> > >
> > >but the A-8 has no V-12 so how can it compare to the S-class??
> >
> > You mean the S-Class has no W-16, so how can it compare to the A-8?
> > --
> > Toby
>
> the A8 doesn't have a W-16 here, only the V-8

the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US
it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an
honest mistake

[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder,
I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...]

>the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US
>it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an
>honest mistake

However, a "W16" has been developed for the new Bugatti supercar.

>[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder,
>I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...]
>

Yupp. It's essentially two 24 valve VR6s mated at the crank. VW found the
benefits of this engine years ago with the Corrado SLC.

In article >, Avantium
> writes
>the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US
>it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an
>honest mistake

Sorry about that.

>[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder,
>I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...]

Yeah, my comments were somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The comment was made
that since the S-class had a V12 available and the A8 did not, then it
must be a better car. I was simply responding to this by saying the A8
has a W12 available/coming, so does this make it a better car than the
Merc?
--
Toby

"Tha Ghee" > wrote:

> a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500,
> I see why VW/Audi is in trouble.

Wow that's a frigging BARGAIN!! In the Netherlands they go for
the equivalent of US$201k.. but than again you yanks get every
car virtually for free so maybe $74k is considered expensive
over there...

Avantium wrote:
>
> [kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder,
> I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...]

"Big and piggish"? The whole point of the W design is its compactness -
it's only about as long as a V8.

--
Mike Smith

"Avantium" > wrote in message
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> "Tha Ghee" > wrote in message
>...
> > "Toby Groves" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, Tha Ghee
> > > > writes
> > > >"Randy S" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >> >a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, then again the A8 compares to the S-class, not the
E-class.
> > Compare the A6 to the E-class to be fair...
> > > >>
> > > >> Randy
> > > >
> > > >but the A-8 has no V-12 so how can it compare to the S-class??
> > >
> > > You mean the S-Class has no W-16, so how can it compare to the A-8?
> > > --
> > > Toby
> >
> > the A8 doesn't have a W-16 here, only the V-8
>
> the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US
> it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an
> honest mistake
>
> [kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder,
> I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...]

you do realize that a W-12 will never be as smooth as a V-12

"Steve Grauman" > wrote in message
...
> >the A8 has or will very soon have a 12 cylinder engine in the US
> >it should be clear that the poster of the "W-16" comment made an
> >honest mistake
>
> However, a "W16" has been developed for the new Bugatti supercar.
>
> >[kinda big and piggish, but nevertheless, it will have a 12 cylinder,
> >I believe a "W" configuration, which is two VR6s together...]
> >
>
> Yupp. It's essentially two 24 valve VR6s mated at the crank. VW found the
> benefits of this engine years ago with the Corrado SLC.

I think they should have ponied up a little money and made a true V-12.
with this config what are the true benefits??

"Bram" > wrote in message
m...
> "Tha Ghee" > wrote:
>
> > a new A8-L stickers for $74k wow that's more than an E500,
> > I see why VW/Audi is in trouble.
>
> Wow that's a frigging BARGAIN!! In the Netherlands they go for
> the equivalent of US$201k.. but than again you yanks get every
> car virtually for free so maybe $74k is considered expensive
> over there...

not expensive but it's missing a few things like V-12, snob appeal. it does
have AWD.

but I think you get a few cars we don't.

>I think they should have ponied up a little money and made a true V-12.

You're potentially talking hundreds of millions of dollars in development
costs.

>with this config what are the true benefits??

It's "footprint". The VR/W configurations make the engines narrower and allows
VW/Audi to squeeze them into places were an engine that size normally would not
fit. The 2.8 Litre VR6 fitted to the Golf/GTi/Jetta is an example of this, as
is the W8 in the Passat.