engine stuck to tranny
 

From: "Briantelope" >
Subject: engine stuck to tranny! ugh!
Date: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:49 PM

56 hard top oval, if you don't remember (you probably don't)

Removed everything, and pulled the body off the pan. Feeling awesome.
To keep myself busy during the week, I was going to start tearing the
engine down. But no! I'm praying some PB Blaster and some time will
help... If not, I've heard that you can try getting at the bolts on the
pressure plate through the starter hole. Fun.

I'm glad I rescued this one before it sat another 10 years in someone's
yard...

wish me luck!

Brian (ugh!!!)

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"One thing at a time, in live as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:12:27 -0500, "T & L" >
wrote:

>
>From: "Briantelope" >
>Subject: engine stuck to tranny! ugh!
>Date: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:49 PM
>
>56 hard top oval, if you don't remember (you probably don't)
>
>Removed everything, and pulled the body off the pan. Feeling awesome.
>To keep myself busy during the week, I was going to start tearing the
>engine down. But no! I'm praying some PB Blaster and some time will
>help... If not, I've heard that you can try getting at the bolts on the
>pressure plate through the starter hole. Fun.
>
>I'm glad I rescued this one before it sat another 10 years in someone's
>yard...
>
>wish me luck!
>
>Brian (ugh!!!)
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/ |__|__|\
| .\ @ /. | thats one sick bus!
| o \ / o |
"One thing at a time, in live as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir


In "live" or in "life?"


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"There's nothing wrong with a little shooting as long as the right people get shot."
- Inspector Harry Callahan

Weird.. Brian, is this message for real?

It looked familiar so checked and noticed you sent out a very same
message a while ago -- this header looks forged, though.

If it is real, good luck -- take pictures.
Remco

In article .com>,
"Remco" > wrote:

> Weird.. Brian, is this message for real?
>
> It looked familiar so checked and noticed you sent out a very same
> message a while ago -- this header looks forged, though.
>
> If it is real, good luck -- take pictures.
> Remco

huh, I didn't post it... but I definitely made that post a while ago...
odd. So.. I'm letting the thing sit while I do some other work on it...
I hope that time, PB Blaster, and a bunch of wiggling will get it free.
If not, I'll hammer in some wooden wedges, and if all else fails, I'll
just take the tranny off and split it open...

will have pictures developed... soon

Brian

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| .\*@ /. | * thats one sick bus!
| o \ / o |
"One thing at a time, in live as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir

In article >,
Shag > wrote:

> ________
> / |__|__|\
> | .\ @ /. | thats one sick bus!
> | o \ / o |
> "One thing at a time, in live as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir
>
>
> In "live" or in "life?"

oops!

Brian

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/ |__|__|\
| .\ @ /. | thats one sick bus!
| o \ / o |
"One thing at a time, in live as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir

I had an engine and tranny that wouldn't seperate once, the clutch
disk was siezed to the splinds on the trans input shaft..

Hey Brian

I've been wondering how you made out with it. Sorry to hear they are
still stuck like 'dogs in heat' as I heard it put so well here :)

You had some space between the transmission and engine, right?
If so, I was thinking that maybe along the top mounting holes you
could insert a bolt . A nut with washer you put being between the
cases, threading it onto this bolt. The end of the bolt would sit --
not in the mating hole on the opposite side -- but on a piece of metal
covering this hole. Tightening that nut would cause it to want to pull
the cases apart. It would only pull it from the top but maybe some
wedges along the bottom could help it all along so the pulling is all
done equally.
Just a local brainfart - not sure if it works. Hope you get it apart
soon.

Think of this problem this way: once you get it all off, you'll be able
to brag about it like it was a badge of honor :)

Remco

Remco wrote:
> Hey Brian
>
> I've been wondering how you made out with it. Sorry to hear they are
> still stuck like 'dogs in heat' as I heard it put so well here :)
>
> You had some space between the transmission and engine, right?
> If so, I was thinking that maybe along the top mounting holes you
> could insert a bolt . A nut with washer you put being between the
> cases, threading it onto this bolt. The end of the bolt would sit --
> not in the mating hole on the opposite side -- but on a piece of metal
> covering this hole. Tightening that nut would cause it to want to pull
> the cases apart. It would only pull it from the top but maybe some
> wedges along the bottom could help it all along so the pulling is all
> done equally.
> Just a local brainfart - not sure if it works. Hope you get it apart
> soon.
>
> Think of this problem this way: once you get it all off, you'll be able
> to brag about it like it was a badge of honor :)
>
> Remco
>

One problem with applying brute force to separate the dogs
is that the likely result is the splined coupling *inside*
the tranny will pull apart. Then the diff has to be pulled
out to fix that:-(

Not sure if this is physically possible, but if a thin steel
wedge could be inserted into the gap, one could push it against
the tranny shaft and then strike it with hammer blows.
The resulting shock might very well break the rust gripping
the splines on the clutch disc.

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/

In article .com>,
"Remco" > wrote:

> I've been wondering how you made out with it. Sorry to hear they are
> still stuck like 'dogs in heat' as I heard it put so well here :)
>
> You had some space between the transmission and engine, right?
> If so, I was thinking that maybe along the top mounting holes you
> could insert a bolt . A nut with washer you put being between the
> cases, threading it onto this bolt. The end of the bolt would sit --
> not in the mating hole on the opposite side -- but on a piece of metal
> covering this hole. Tightening that nut would cause it to want to pull
> the cases apart. It would only pull it from the top but maybe some
> wedges along the bottom could help it all along so the pulling is all
> done equally.
> Just a local brainfart - not sure if it works. Hope you get it apart
> soon.

Hey, now that's not a bad idea! I'll let ya know what happens

>
> Think of this problem this way: once you get it all off, you'll be able
> to brag about it like it was a badge of honor :)

definitely!

Brian

--
________
/ |__|__|\ *
| .\*@ /. | * thats one sick bus!
| o \ / o |
"One thing at a time, in life as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir

In article >,
Speedy Jim > wrote:

> Not sure if this is physically possible, but if a thin steel
> wedge could be inserted into the gap, one could push it against
> the tranny shaft and then strike it with hammer blows.
> The resulting shock might very well break the rust gripping
> the splines on the clutch disc.

yeah, I kept thinking what the best way to break the hold would be.
that's a good idea, but the hard part is finding something thin enough,
but strong enough.

Brian

--
________
/ |__|__|\
| .\ @ /. | thats one sick bus!
| o \ / o |
"One thing at a time, in life as in your Volkswagen" --John Muir