M3: higher idle RPM after service recall
 

I noticed the idle speed is now 900-1000 rpm (warm engine) after completing
the service recall on my 2003 M3 with SMG.

But before the service recall, it was around 700-800 rpm.

Also, the car use to occasionally hesitate and even stall when starting from
the 1st gear and gear changes (automatic mode) were sluggish.

Now, the car runs great!

Anyone else have this experience?

If you bought a proper sports car, as opposed to a Schumacher 'wannabe'
gearbox, then 1st gear and gear changes wouldn't be a problem.

Why do people buy SMG gearboxes? Too lazy for a clutch pedal?

And why are you using it in auto mode you Muppet!


"visitor" > wrote in message
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> I noticed the idle speed is now 900-1000 rpm (warm engine) after
completing
> the service recall on my 2003 M3 with SMG.
>
> But before the service recall, it was around 700-800 rpm.
>
> Also, the car use to occasionally hesitate and even stall when starting
from
> the 1st gear and gear changes (automatic mode) were sluggish.
>
> Now, the car runs great!
>
> Anyone else have this experience?
>
>
>

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:59:18 +0000, Bill wrote:

> If you bought a proper sports car, as opposed to a Schumacher 'wannabe'
> gearbox, then 1st gear and gear changes wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Why do people buy SMG gearboxes? Too lazy for a clutch pedal?
>
Have you driven a late model with SMG II? Not a 10 minute demo ride but
long enough to learn how to use it properly? I find them to be pretty
amazing beasties in full sport mode on twisty, challenging, roads.
Apparently the WRC drivers think so too and I haven't yet seen one of
those cars that didn't have a similar system. And those guys really flog
those cars through the stages.

> And why are you using it in auto mode you Muppet!
>
In stop and go traffic I think that SMG's auto mode makes a lot of sense.
Having driven manuals for years I'll take an SMG or BMW auto over a stick
when there's lots of city driving involved. It is just oh so much easier.

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"visitor" > wrote in message
...
> I noticed the idle speed is now 900-1000 rpm (warm engine) after
completing
> the service recall on my 2003 M3 with SMG.
>
> But before the service recall, it was around 700-800 rpm.
>
> Also, the car use to occasionally hesitate and even stall when starting
from
> the 1st gear and gear changes (automatic mode) were sluggish.
>
> Now, the car runs great!
>
> Anyone else have this experience?
>
>
>

Didn't have any problems before and the idle is pretty much the same
although I now find the 2-1 changedown is definately quicker at junctions
and the upchages inn S5 & 6 feel a bit smoother. This could be down to the
teach-in process though.

In article >,
Jim Levie > wrote:
> Apparently the WRC drivers think so too and I haven't yet seen one of
> those cars that didn't have a similar system.

Do you have the roll cage too? ;-)

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Bill, you're an ass. Post a productive comment once in a while.

"Bill" > wrote in message >...
> If you bought a proper sports car, as opposed to a Schumacher 'wannabe'
> gearbox, then 1st gear and gear changes wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Why do people buy SMG gearboxes? Too lazy for a clutch pedal?
>
> And why are you using it in auto mode you Muppet!
>
>
> "visitor" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I noticed the idle speed is now 900-1000 rpm (warm engine) after
> completing
> > the service recall on my 2003 M3 with SMG.
> >
> > But before the service recall, it was around 700-800 rpm.
> >
> > Also, the car use to occasionally hesitate and even stall when starting
> from
> > the 1st gear and gear changes (automatic mode) were sluggish.
> >
> > Now, the car runs great!
> >
> > Anyone else have this experience?
> >
> >
> >

"TonyK" > wrote in message >...
> "visitor" > wrote in message
> ...

>
> Didn't have any problems before and the idle is pretty much the same
> although I now find the 2-1 changedown is definately quicker at junctions
> and the upchages inn S5 & 6 feel a bit smoother. This could be down to the
> teach-in process though.

I didn't buy SMG 'cos I thought I couldnt live with it. ...but I
can't live with the manual manual gearbox either. The e46 M3 was a
huge disappointment to me.

I'm not the same 'Bill' as above... but I would like to try the SMG because
I like the newer BMWs and my wife doesn't drive a stick (I prefer one). I'd
think it would be more sporting than the pure Auto box.
Isn't this also the same progression we saw when the boxes went from 4-speed
to 5-speed? And now there's less chance of the dreaded 'mechanical over-rev'
common with those who can't really drive a stick, and less tear-up on the
clutch-shifter-transmission, too.
just my 2 cents.


"adder" > wrote in message
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"TonyK" > wrote in message
>...
> "visitor" > wrote in message
> ...

>
> Didn't have any problems before and the idle is pretty much the same
> although I now find the 2-1 changedown is definately quicker at junctions
> and the upchages inn S5 & 6 feel a bit smoother. This could be down to the
> teach-in process though.

I didn't buy SMG 'cos I thought I couldnt live with it. ...but I
can't live with the manual manual gearbox either. The e46 M3 was a
huge disappointment to me.

"Bill" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not the same 'Bill' as above... but I would like to try the SMG
because
> I like the newer BMWs and my wife doesn't drive a stick (I prefer one).
I'd
> think it would be more sporting than the pure Auto box.
> Isn't this also the same progression we saw when the boxes went from
4-speed
> to 5-speed? And now there's less chance of the dreaded 'mechanical
over-rev'
> common with those who can't really drive a stick, and less tear-up on the
> clutch-shifter-transmission, too.
> just my 2 cents.
>
>

IMO/E SMG is not auto-enough to be a comfortable replacement for someone
used to a automatic, ie. no hold on hills (unless you mess with paddles),
must feather throttle for smooth changes and if you knock a paddle it
reverts to sequential.

You'll probably find the six speed auto with steptronic is the right move
that would be an auto with paddles to change manually which realistcally is
probably a lot easier to live with on a daily basis. Having said that my
wife loves the SMG.

"adder" > wrote in message
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> "TonyK" > wrote in message
>...
> > "visitor" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> >
> > Didn't have any problems before and the idle is pretty much the same
> > although I now find the 2-1 changedown is definately quicker at
junctions
> > and the upchages inn S5 & 6 feel a bit smoother. This could be down to
the
> > teach-in process though.
>
> I didn't buy SMG 'cos I thought I couldnt live with it. ...but I
> can't live with the manual manual gearbox either. The e46 M3 was a
> huge disappointment to me.

SMG is a compromise 80% of the time but the remaining 20% helps make up for
the losses. Why not a manual-manual? I found the manual box as good if not a
bit better than the five speed. The only thing that put me off was the
heavier clutch which was a PITA as almost all my driving is stop-go. You're
not suggesting an auto are you ;-)