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[email protected] February 11th 05 11:16 PM

Parking ticket
 
I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking spot
in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it seems
like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?

I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to fight
things like this.


Scott en Aztlán February 15th 05 08:31 PM

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:16:40 -0500, wrote:

>I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking spot
>in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it seems
>like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
>incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?
>
>I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to fight
>things like this.


On what grounds would you fight it? Were you actually pulled into the
space and not backed in?

STFU and pay the goddamn fine - don't waste the taxpayers' money by
fighting it. There's a reason why backing into parking spaces is
prohibited: the authorities know that most people can't back up worth
a damn, and if they try they will just end up hitting the cars parked
next to them. Obviously they were right in your case - you're too
****ing blind to even see the "do not back into parking spaces" signs!
How much damage did you cause to those poor sods in the neighboring
spaces?

--
Sloth Kills!
http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/


Paul Cassel February 15th 05 08:32 PM

wrote:
> I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking spot
> in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it seems
> like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
> incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?


No. Forget TV. The model year of your car is immaterial to this case.
All these criminals getting loose on 'technicalities' are grist for the
fiction mill. They do not walk among us.
>
> I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to fight
> things like this.
>


Knock yourself out. If you have a lot of time on your hands, you may
find the workings of the system which will grind you and your concerns
into a fine powder amusing.

-paul
ianal


Dick Adams February 15th 05 08:32 PM

> wrote:
> I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking spot
> in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it seems
> like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
> incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?


Do I understand you correctly: You received a citation for backing
into a parking spot instead pulling in head first? This sounds
like a local ordinance. I'd call and ask why cars must be parked
head first. There needs to be a reason.

You can argue that the model year is incorrect, but judges are not
stupid.

> I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to fight
> things like this.


That is known as The Don Quixote Syndrome. <G>

Dick -- My brother is an attorney, but my sister threatened
to beat me if I told anyone.


Paul February 15th 05 08:32 PM


> wrote in message
...
> I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking

spot
> in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it

seems
> like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
> incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?


I've seen those in Savannah, GA from time to time where you can't
(legally) back into a parking space in a public lot among other SFB laws
that exist (maybe because they want the car's license tag to be
visible?) and then they wonder why everyone with 1/2 a brain is
abandoning the cities in favor of the suburbs and their malls... I
agree, it has to be the stupidest rule I've ever heard of and if the
police have time to enforce a law like this, then your city has *way* to
many revenue officers..... errrrrrr....... police officers on its force
with *way* too much time on their hands... You probablly could get out
of it on the technicality as the revenue officer wrote the ticket for a
vehicle that is not yours...

> I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to fight
> things like this.


We need more people like you who are willing to fight SFB laws like this
one...


Daniel J. Stern February 17th 05 11:50 PM


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Dick Adams wrote:

> Do I understand you correctly: You received a citation for backing into
> a parking spot instead pulling in head first? This sounds like a local
> ordinance. I'd call and ask why cars must be parked head first. There
> needs to be a reason.


The only reason necessary to make the ticket stick is "Because that's the
law."

Of course, a legal challenge to get the law struck down would require
there to be a reason that the authorities consider valid (or perhaps
"plausible enough to fly"). But that's not the same question.


Stuart A. Bronstein February 17th 05 11:50 PM

(Dick Adams) wrote:
> > wrote:


>> I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to
>> fight things like this.

>
> That is known as The Don Quixote Syndrome. <G>


When one fights a ticket like this he runs the risk of having a
greater fine imposed than if he just paid the ticket.

> Dick -- My brother is an attorney, but my sister threatened
> to beat me if I told anyone.


Don't worry. Your secret is safe with me.

Stu


Stan Brown February 17th 05 11:53 PM

"Paul" wrote in misc.legal.moderated:
>I've seen those in Savannah, GA from time to time where you can't
>(legally) back into a parking space in a public lot ... I
>agree, it has to be the stupidest rule I've ever heard of


Does it? The OP did not tell us details, but if the parking is
angle parking then backing in is quite hazardous because it points
your car against the flow of traffic.

I have also seen "front in only" signs where there are ornamental
plantings just over the curb and auto exhausts from backing in
would harm the plants. Granted, it's stupid to put delicate plants
in that situation, but given that the plants are there the
restriction seems not unreasonable.

--
If you e-mail me from a fake address, your fingers will drop off.

I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. When you read anything
legal on the net, always verify it on your own, in light of your
particular circumstances. You may also need to consult a lawyer.

Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com


Alex Rodriguez February 17th 05 11:53 PM


wrote:
>> I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking spot
>> in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it seems
>> like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
>> incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?


In NYC that would get the ticket tossed. If the ticket agent is too stupid to
copy information correctly, they probably can't tell when you are legally
parked.
-------------
Alex


[email protected] February 17th 05 11:53 PM


Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:16:40 -0500, wrote:
>
> >I got a parking ticket, for, of all things, backing into a parking

spot
> >in public metered parking (Michigan). It's a small fine, but it

seems
> >like such a rediculous offense. The model year of my car is listed
> >incorrectly; could I get out of it for this reason?
> >
> >I know it would be easy enough to pay, but I have a tendancy to

fight
> >things like this.

>
> On what grounds would you fight it? Were you actually pulled into the
> space and not backed in?
>
> STFU and pay the goddamn fine - don't waste the taxpayers' money by
> fighting it. There's a reason why backing into parking spaces is
> prohibited: the authorities know that most people can't back up worth
> a damn, and if they try they will just end up hitting the cars parked
> next to them. Obviously they were right in your case - you're too
> ****ing blind to even see the "do not back into parking spaces"

signs!
> How much damage did you cause to those poor sods in the neighboring
> spaces?
>
> --
> Sloth Kills!
>
http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/


Waste the taxpayers money???!! They'll already be making money from me
via a fine!
What damage are you talking about? I have a new car and I'm the one
that always parks far and away so OTHERS don't give me door dings!




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