Now This Is Good Idea!
 

A cool way to help save the planet.

http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101272

Patrick
'93 Cobra
'83 LTD

Patrick wrote:
> A cool way to help save the planet.
>
> http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101272

I'm staying away from it until the bugs are found and worked out. It is
nice to see some larger vehicles jumping on the band wagon. And with
295-hp, 335-lb-ft torque, it doesn't look too shabby.

--
Sean

"Fao, Sean" -WANT-NO-SPAM> wrote in message
...
> Patrick wrote:
> > A cool way to help save the planet.
> >
> > http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101272
>
> I'm staying away from it until the bugs are found and worked out. It is
> nice to see some larger vehicles jumping on the band wagon. And with
> 295-hp, 335-lb-ft torque, it doesn't look too shabby.

Seems a bit low on torque for a 5,000+ lb vehicle, but I suppose torque is
typical of the relatively small ejgine it has. I suppose they make up for it
with gearing, being as how it has an overdrive transmission.

Anyhow, nice idea to save gas, but I don't think I'll ever get another
vehicle newer than the early '70s. I tried it twice and it was no good. Too
difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on. Also, older cars are
cheaper to own. Less initial cost, less insurance cost, cheaper parts cost,
and easy to do the work yourself.

Cory

Cory Dunkle

>
> Anyhow, nice idea to save gas, but I don't think I'll ever get another
> vehicle newer than the early '70s. I tried it twice and it was no good.
> Too difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on. Also, older
> cars are cheaper to own. Less initial cost, less insurance cost, cheaper
> parts cost, and easy to do the work yourself.
>
> Cory
>

You're still 20 or so, i'm still 40 years older than you and you are still,
absolutely, positively, 100 % W R O N G!!!!!!!!!

All your "reasons" only point out your lack of confidence in yourself..
sorry, but that's what it's about

Patrick opined in om:

> http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101272

From a sidebar on same site:

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101351

"Burn an SUV, go to prison"

"Who’s afraid of Mustang?"

quote:
"Chevrolet marketing director Jim Campbell says the bow-tie division can
cover that segment with the four-cylinder, supercharged Cobalt SS and Monte
Carlo. "The Monte Carlo is capturing part of that market," Campbell says,
pointing out the coupe's success on the NASCAR circuit."

Yeah, sure... whatever!

"Backyard Mechanic" > wrote in message
...
> Cory Dunkle
>
> >
> > Anyhow, nice idea to save gas, but I don't think I'll ever get another
> > vehicle newer than the early '70s. I tried it twice and it was no good.
> > Too difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on. Also, older
> > cars are cheaper to own. Less initial cost, less insurance cost, cheaper
> > parts cost, and easy to do the work yourself.
> >
> > Cory
>
> You're still 20 or so, i'm still 40 years older than you and you are
still,
> absolutely, positively, 100 % W R O N G!!!!!!!!!
>
> All your "reasons" only point out your lack of confidence in yourself..
> sorry, but that's what it's about

Well you're totally wrong there, because I have confidence in myself and my
ability to repair my vehicle. For those thigns I am not so sure of, I ask
and take my time doing. Thw two modern vehicles I drove were a nightmare to
work on. Totaly not user-friendly. As far as reliability, the modenr one
that was fuel injected required me to pour gas down the throttle body on
cold mornings. Never had to do that with any of my carbed cars, ever. Also,
my insurance was significantly more expensive with either of the econo-box
type modern cars I drove than it was with my Galaxie, a comfortable
full-size car with a respectable amount of get-up-and-go.

Go ahead and tell me it's more expensive for me to own a classic car I pay
less than $2500 for than it is to buy a brand new car I pay $20,000+ for.
I'd rather pay for my car all at once in cash than over 5-10 years. Your
logic seems quite flawed to me. Go ahead and explain to me how I am 100%
wrong about a new, or newer car being more expensive to own. I'm listening.

I won't deny brand new cars are normally very reliable for quite a few
years, but once things start wearing out it becomes very expensive. Even
many parts for modenr cars are a lot more expensive. To troubleshoot a
modern car often requires a code reader, another expense. Too much hassle
and extra cost for me. I'd rather stick to what I know and what has not let
me down.

Cory

"Backyard Mechanic" > wrote in message
...
> Patrick opined in om:
>
> > http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101272
>
> From a sidebar on same site:
>
> http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101351
>
> "Burn an SUV, go to prison"
>
> "Who's afraid of Mustang?"
>
> quote:
> "Chevrolet marketing director Jim Campbell says the bow-tie division can
> cover that segment with the four-cylinder, supercharged Cobalt SS and
Monte
> Carlo. "The Monte Carlo is capturing part of that market," Campbell says,
> pointing out the coupe's success on the NASCAR circuit."
>
> Yeah, sure... whatever!

Yep. Sadly NASCAR died a long, long time ago. Those aren't real cars on the
track, and all these new rule changes and BS make it even worse.

Cory

"Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
...
> "Backyard Mechanic" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Cory Dunkle
> >
> > >
> > > Anyhow, nice idea to save gas, but I don't think I'll ever get another
> > > vehicle newer than the early '70s. I tried it twice and it was no
good.
> > > Too difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on. Also, older
> > > cars are cheaper to own. Less initial cost, less insurance cost,
cheaper
> > > parts cost, and easy to do the work yourself.
> > >
> > > Cory
> >
> > You're still 20 or so, i'm still 40 years older than you and you are
> still,
> > absolutely, positively, 100 % W R O N G!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > All your "reasons" only point out your lack of confidence in yourself..
> > sorry, but that's what it's about
>
> Well you're totally wrong there, because I have confidence in myself and
my
> ability to repair my vehicle. For those thigns I am not so sure of, I ask
> and take my time doing. Thw two modern vehicles I drove were a nightmare
to
> work on. Totaly not user-friendly. As far as reliability, the modenr one
> that was fuel injected required me to pour gas down the throttle body on
> cold mornings. Never had to do that with any of my carbed cars, ever.
Also,
> my insurance was significantly more expensive with either of the econo-box
> type modern cars I drove than it was with my Galaxie, a comfortable
> full-size car with a respectable amount of get-up-and-go.
>
> Go ahead and tell me it's more expensive for me to own a classic car I pay
> less than $2500 for than it is to buy a brand new car I pay $20,000+ for.
> I'd rather pay for my car all at once in cash than over 5-10 years. Your
> logic seems quite flawed to me. Go ahead and explain to me how I am 100%
> wrong about a new, or newer car being more expensive to own. I'm
listening.
>
> I won't deny brand new cars are normally very reliable for quite a few
> years, but once things start wearing out it becomes very expensive. Even
> many parts for modenr cars are a lot more expensive. To troubleshoot a
> modern car often requires a code reader, another expense. Too much hassle
> and extra cost for me. I'd rather stick to what I know and what has not
let
> me down.
>
> Cory
>
Cory,

You should have zipped it while you were behind, your reply did nothing to
support you original position.
Your statements examples and attitude are misguided and very unflattering.

You boorish rebuttal leaves you in a very poor light...

BTW:
I have driven many fuel injected cars & trucks into the many 100's of
thousands of miles and converted 2 from Carbureted to Fuel Injected, and
have NEVER had to pour gas down any of them...

"351CJ" > wrote in message news:fsSsd.147$wE.59@trnddc01...
>
> "Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Backyard Mechanic" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Cory Dunkle
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow, nice idea to save gas, but I don't think I'll ever get
another
> > > > vehicle newer than the early '70s. I tried it twice and it was no
> good.
> > > > Too difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on. Also,
older
> > > > cars are cheaper to own. Less initial cost, less insurance cost,
> cheaper
> > > > parts cost, and easy to do the work yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Cory
> > >
> > > You're still 20 or so, i'm still 40 years older than you and you are
> > still,
> > > absolutely, positively, 100 % W R O N G!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > All your "reasons" only point out your lack of confidence in
yourself..
> > > sorry, but that's what it's about
> >
> > Well you're totally wrong there, because I have confidence in myself and
> my
> > ability to repair my vehicle. For those thigns I am not so sure of, I
ask
> > and take my time doing. Thw two modern vehicles I drove were a nightmare
> to
> > work on. Totaly not user-friendly. As far as reliability, the modenr one
> > that was fuel injected required me to pour gas down the throttle body on
> > cold mornings. Never had to do that with any of my carbed cars, ever.
> Also,
> > my insurance was significantly more expensive with either of the
econo-box
> > type modern cars I drove than it was with my Galaxie, a comfortable
> > full-size car with a respectable amount of get-up-and-go.
> >
> > Go ahead and tell me it's more expensive for me to own a classic car I
pay
> > less than $2500 for than it is to buy a brand new car I pay $20,000+
for.
> > I'd rather pay for my car all at once in cash than over 5-10 years. Your
> > logic seems quite flawed to me. Go ahead and explain to me how I am 100%

> > wrong about a new, or newer car being more expensive to own. I'm
> listening.
> >
> > I won't deny brand new cars are normally very reliable for quite a few
> > years, but once things start wearing out it becomes very expensive. Even
> > many parts for modenr cars are a lot more expensive. To troubleshoot a
> > modern car often requires a code reader, another expense. Too much
hassle
> > and extra cost for me. I'd rather stick to what I know and what has not
> let
> > me down.
> >
> > Cory
> >
> Cory,
>
> You should have zipped it while you were behind, your reply did nothing to
> support you original position.
> Your statements examples and attitude are misguided and very unflattering.
>
> You boorish rebuttal leaves you in a very poor light...
>
> BTW:
> I have driven many fuel injected cars & trucks into the many 100's of
> thousands of miles and converted 2 from Carbureted to Fuel Injected, and
> have NEVER had to pour gas down any of them...

I'm just telling you my experiences. Regardless, the point of my original
post was that new cars are more expensive to own. I then gave examples of
how parts for new cars are generally more expensive and insurance is
significantly more expensive (at least in my neck of the woods).

So instead of saying anything at all about the topic at hand, you take
potshots at me. Great... That really shines well on you, eh?

Cory

****.... my wife drives fuel injected vehicles all the time and she never
seems to have trouble...... least of all having to manually prime
something - I thouht I saw something about "ability to repair"..... must be
oldtimers disease setting in...

OTOH, where I live it drops to -40F and colder..... the last thing I need is
a truck that turns itself off whenever it stops moving. Hybrids are great
for urban use but out here, a warm cab can be the difference between living
and dying.


"351CJ" > wrote in message news:fsSsd.147$wE.59@trnddc01...
> > "Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Backyard Mechanic" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Cory Dunkle
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Anyhow, nice idea to save gas, but I don't think I'll ever get
>> > > another
>> > > vehicle newer than the early '70s. I tried it twice and it was no
> good.
>> > > Too difficult, frustrating, and time consuming to work on. Also,
>> > > older
>> > > cars are cheaper to own. Less initial cost, less insurance cost,
> cheaper
>> > > parts cost, and easy to do the work yourself.
>> > >
>> > > Cory
>> >
>> > You're still 20 or so, i'm still 40 years older than you and you are
>> still,
>> > absolutely, positively, 100 % W R O N G!!!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > All your "reasons" only point out your lack of confidence in yourself..
>> > sorry, but that's what it's about
>>
>> Well you're totally wrong there, because I have confidence in myself and
> my
>> ability to repair my vehicle. For those thigns I am not so sure of, I ask
>> and take my time doing. Thw two modern vehicles I drove were a nightmare
> to
>> work on. Totaly not user-friendly. As far as reliability, the modenr one
>> that was fuel injected required me to pour gas down the throttle body on
>> cold mornings. Never had to do that with any of my carbed cars, ever.
> Also,
>> my insurance was significantly more expensive with either of the
>> econo-box
>> type modern cars I drove than it was with my Galaxie, a comfortable
>> full-size car with a respectable amount of get-up-and-go.
>>
>> Go ahead and tell me it's more expensive for me to own a classic car I
>> pay
>> less than $2500 for than it is to buy a brand new car I pay $20,000+ for.
>> I'd rather pay for my car all at once in cash than over 5-10 years. Your
>> logic seems quite flawed to me. Go ahead and explain to me how I am 100%
>> wrong about a new, or newer car being more expensive to own. I'm
> listening.
>>
>> I won't deny brand new cars are normally very reliable for quite a few
>> years, but once things start wearing out it becomes very expensive. Even
>> many parts for modenr cars are a lot more expensive. To troubleshoot a
>> modern car often requires a code reader, another expense. Too much hassle
>> and extra cost for me. I'd rather stick to what I know and what has not
> let
>> me down.
>>
>> Cory
>>
> Cory,
>
> You should have zipped it while you were behind, your reply did nothing to
> support you original position.
> Your statements examples and attitude are misguided and very unflattering.
>
> You boorish rebuttal leaves you in a very poor light...
>
> BTW:
> I have driven many fuel injected cars & trucks into the many 100's of
> thousands of miles and converted 2 from Carbureted to Fuel Injected, and
> have NEVER had to pour gas down any of them...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>