1996 Chrysler Concorde
 

1996 Chysler Concorde
3.5l
Friends daughter is coming home from
school this weekend, and wants help with her car.
Check engine light is on...

Runs great at any driving speed, but at idle - in park or
neutral, it runs extremely rough.

Car has 60k miles, and is MINT!

I am having thoughts or:
02 sensor
fuel filter
spark plug
air filter

but unsure what to have on hand when she gets here---

IDEAS?

email me:


--
DudLee & Debbie
Brennfoerder
Edgar, NE 68935

Possibly just clean the throttle body. Loose gas cap could have made the
light go on. Disconnect battery and see if it resets and stays off.
Otherwise take it somewhere that will read the codes for you.


"DudLee Brennfoerder" > wrote in message
...
> 1996 Chysler Concorde
> 3.5l
> Friends daughter is coming home from
> school this weekend, and wants help with her car.
> Check engine light is on...
>
> Runs great at any driving speed, but at idle - in park or
> neutral, it runs extremely rough.
>
> Car has 60k miles, and is MINT!
>
> I am having thoughts or:
> 02 sensor
> fuel filter
> spark plug
> air filter
>
> but unsure what to have on hand when she gets here---
>
> IDEAS?
>
> email me:
>
>
> --
> DudLee & Debbie
> Brennfoerder
> Edgar, NE 68935
>
>
>

Possibly just clean the throttle body. Loose gas cap could have made the
light go on. Disconnect battery and see if it resets and stays off.
Otherwise take it somewhere that will read the codes for you.


"DudLee Brennfoerder" > wrote in message
...
> 1996 Chysler Concorde
> 3.5l
> Friends daughter is coming home from
> school this weekend, and wants help with her car.
> Check engine light is on...
>
> Runs great at any driving speed, but at idle - in park or
> neutral, it runs extremely rough.
>
> Car has 60k miles, and is MINT!
>
> I am having thoughts or:
> 02 sensor
> fuel filter
> spark plug
> air filter
>
> but unsure what to have on hand when she gets here---
>
> IDEAS?
>
> email me:
>
>
> --
> DudLee & Debbie
> Brennfoerder
> Edgar, NE 68935
>
>
>

Art wrote:
> Possibly just clean the throttle body. Loose gas cap could have made the
> light go on. Disconnect battery and see if it resets and stays off.
> Otherwise take it somewhere that will read the codes for you.
>

I was going to suggest cleaning the TB too. I did my '99 a couple of
weeks ago, and it straightened out a rough idle. Haven't run enough
tanks thru to be sure, but it appears the mileage has gone up a couple
of mpg too.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')


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Art wrote:
> Possibly just clean the throttle body. Loose gas cap could have made the
> light go on. Disconnect battery and see if it resets and stays off.
> Otherwise take it somewhere that will read the codes for you.
>

I was going to suggest cleaning the TB too. I did my '99 a couple of
weeks ago, and it straightened out a rough idle. Haven't run enough
tanks thru to be sure, but it appears the mileage has gone up a couple
of mpg too.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')


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Just to be clear, there are TWO Throttle Bodies on the '96 3.5L. Make sure
you clean both thoroughly and then do a power reset by removing the battery
cable for a minute or two when you are done. You also don't say when the
vehicle was last tuned. At it's age, regardless of mileage (my '96 Vision
TSI has about 70K and I have replaced the plugs twice and the wires about
two years ago ), the spark plug wires should also be replaced assuming they
have not been to date. I agree on replacing the air filter, fuel filter,
and the PCV (not on your list) as well.

Lastly, as preventive maintenance, the transmission pan should have been
dropped/cleaned, the magnet removed/cleaned, filter replaced and then
refilled with ATF+4 at least twice by now. I only mention this in case you
want to suggest this to the owner keep it running well Chrysler
transmissions of that vintage are noted for having problems if they are not
properly maintained. Make sure they drop the pan and replace the filter and
don't just do a power back flush (which supposedly gets all the fluid, but
leaves the dirty filter, used clutch material, and debris in the pan.

Good luck. I suspect the rough idle is from dirty TBs and possibly a
plugged air filter. Assuming much of this maintenance is due anyway, I'd go
ahead and do it first to see if it solves the problem. If not, then take
the advice and get the error code read. It could be an O2 sensor or the EGR
as well.

Bob

"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> Art wrote:
> > Possibly just clean the throttle body. Loose gas cap could have made
the
> > light go on. Disconnect battery and see if it resets and stays off.
> > Otherwise take it somewhere that will read the codes for you.
> >
>
> I was going to suggest cleaning the TB too. I did my '99 a couple of
> weeks ago, and it straightened out a rough idle. Haven't run enough
> tanks thru to be sure, but it appears the mileage has gone up a couple
> of mpg too.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')

Just to be clear, there are TWO Throttle Bodies on the '96 3.5L. Make sure
you clean both thoroughly and then do a power reset by removing the battery
cable for a minute or two when you are done. You also don't say when the
vehicle was last tuned. At it's age, regardless of mileage (my '96 Vision
TSI has about 70K and I have replaced the plugs twice and the wires about
two years ago ), the spark plug wires should also be replaced assuming they
have not been to date. I agree on replacing the air filter, fuel filter,
and the PCV (not on your list) as well.

Lastly, as preventive maintenance, the transmission pan should have been
dropped/cleaned, the magnet removed/cleaned, filter replaced and then
refilled with ATF+4 at least twice by now. I only mention this in case you
want to suggest this to the owner keep it running well Chrysler
transmissions of that vintage are noted for having problems if they are not
properly maintained. Make sure they drop the pan and replace the filter and
don't just do a power back flush (which supposedly gets all the fluid, but
leaves the dirty filter, used clutch material, and debris in the pan.

Good luck. I suspect the rough idle is from dirty TBs and possibly a
plugged air filter. Assuming much of this maintenance is due anyway, I'd go
ahead and do it first to see if it solves the problem. If not, then take
the advice and get the error code read. It could be an O2 sensor or the EGR
as well.

Bob

"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> Art wrote:
> > Possibly just clean the throttle body. Loose gas cap could have made
the
> > light go on. Disconnect battery and see if it resets and stays off.
> > Otherwise take it somewhere that will read the codes for you.
> >
>
> I was going to suggest cleaning the TB too. I did my '99 a couple of
> weeks ago, and it straightened out a rough idle. Haven't run enough
> tanks thru to be sure, but it appears the mileage has gone up a couple
> of mpg too.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> adddress with the letter 'x')

By the way, if you get a bang under the AT console when parking or turning,
it is probably the rear AT mount and not engine mounts.


"DudLee Brennfoerder" > wrote in message
...
> 1996 Chysler Concorde
> 3.5l
> Friends daughter is coming home from
> school this weekend, and wants help with her car.
> Check engine light is on...
>
> Runs great at any driving speed, but at idle - in park or
> neutral, it runs extremely rough.
>
> Car has 60k miles, and is MINT!
>
> I am having thoughts or:
> 02 sensor
> fuel filter
> spark plug
> air filter
>
> but unsure what to have on hand when she gets here---
>
> IDEAS?
>
> email me:
>
>
> --
> DudLee & Debbie
> Brennfoerder
> Edgar, NE 68935
>
>
>

By the way, if you get a bang under the AT console when parking or turning,
it is probably the rear AT mount and not engine mounts.


"DudLee Brennfoerder" > wrote in message
...
> 1996 Chysler Concorde
> 3.5l
> Friends daughter is coming home from
> school this weekend, and wants help with her car.
> Check engine light is on...
>
> Runs great at any driving speed, but at idle - in park or
> neutral, it runs extremely rough.
>
> Car has 60k miles, and is MINT!
>
> I am having thoughts or:
> 02 sensor
> fuel filter
> spark plug
> air filter
>
> but unsure what to have on hand when she gets here---
>
> IDEAS?
>
> email me:
>
>
> --
> DudLee & Debbie
> Brennfoerder
> Edgar, NE 68935
>
>
>

Could be a vacuum leak. Places to look first are the power brake booster
(disconnect and plug the vacuum line to see if it smooths out the idle),
PCV valve, and if it comes to it all the smaller vacuum lines.

Also could be a bad EGR valve (this would actually be my first guess).



DudLee Brennfoerder wrote:

> 1996 Chysler Concorde
> 3.5l
> Friends daughter is coming home from
> school this weekend, and wants help with her car.
> Check engine light is on...
>
> Runs great at any driving speed, but at idle - in park or
> neutral, it runs extremely rough.
>
> Car has 60k miles, and is MINT!
>
> I am having thoughts or:
> 02 sensor
> fuel filter
> spark plug
> air filter
>
> but unsure what to have on hand when she gets here---
>
> IDEAS?
>
> email me:
>
>