Stainless steel muffler- maybe not
 

I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy
(can't remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When
I checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes
leading to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if
Midas/Speedy are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes
that are welded to the muffler themselves are just mild steel?? If
this is the case, I think they are a rip-off. The clamps that they
used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they would use stainless
steel clamps??

Anyone know for sure if the stainless steel mufflers these people sell
are all stainless??

Steve L.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:

> I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy (can't
> remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When I
> checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes leading
> to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if Midas/Speedy
> are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes that are welded
> to the muffler themselves are just mild steel??

If you patronize places like Midas or Speedy, you get crapola -- even if
you pay for their "premium" stuff. I doubt they installed a
stainless-steel muffler on your car at Midas or Speedy, unless it was a
cheaply-made "universal" muffler. Even the best quality name-brand
mufflers available for your '93 Caravan aren't stainless like the original
Chrysler unit was -- they're aluminized steel, same as you'll get if you
try to buy an "original equipment" muffler from the dealer.

> The clamps that they used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they
> would use stainless steel clamps??

At Midas? At Speedy? Pffft.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:

> I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy (can't
> remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When I
> checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes leading
> to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if Midas/Speedy
> are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes that are welded
> to the muffler themselves are just mild steel??

If you patronize places like Midas or Speedy, you get crapola -- even if
you pay for their "premium" stuff. I doubt they installed a
stainless-steel muffler on your car at Midas or Speedy, unless it was a
cheaply-made "universal" muffler. Even the best quality name-brand
mufflers available for your '93 Caravan aren't stainless like the original
Chrysler unit was -- they're aluminized steel, same as you'll get if you
try to buy an "original equipment" muffler from the dealer.

> The clamps that they used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they
> would use stainless steel clamps??

At Midas? At Speedy? Pffft.

Thanks Daniel,
So where can you get a real stainless steel muffler for a 93 grand
caravan 3.3 litre AWD.
I just called the dealer and the parts guy admitted that they use the
same muffler as Midas etc. He said the supplier was Walker.



"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.60.0410121507590.8768@ns7>...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:
>
> > I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy (can't
> > remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When I
> > checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes leading
> > to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if Midas/Speedy
> > are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes that are welded
> > to the muffler themselves are just mild steel??
>
> If you patronize places like Midas or Speedy, you get crapola -- even if
> you pay for their "premium" stuff. I doubt they installed a
> stainless-steel muffler on your car at Midas or Speedy, unless it was a
> cheaply-made "universal" muffler. Even the best quality name-brand
> mufflers available for your '93 Caravan aren't stainless like the original
> Chrysler unit was -- they're aluminized steel, same as you'll get if you
> try to buy an "original equipment" muffler from the dealer.
>
> > The clamps that they used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they
> > would use stainless steel clamps??
>
> At Midas? At Speedy? Pffft.

Thanks Daniel,
So where can you get a real stainless steel muffler for a 93 grand
caravan 3.3 litre AWD.
I just called the dealer and the parts guy admitted that they use the
same muffler as Midas etc. He said the supplier was Walker.



"Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.60.0410121507590.8768@ns7>...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:
>
> > I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy (can't
> > remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When I
> > checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes leading
> > to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if Midas/Speedy
> > are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes that are welded
> > to the muffler themselves are just mild steel??
>
> If you patronize places like Midas or Speedy, you get crapola -- even if
> you pay for their "premium" stuff. I doubt they installed a
> stainless-steel muffler on your car at Midas or Speedy, unless it was a
> cheaply-made "universal" muffler. Even the best quality name-brand
> mufflers available for your '93 Caravan aren't stainless like the original
> Chrysler unit was -- they're aluminized steel, same as you'll get if you
> try to buy an "original equipment" muffler from the dealer.
>
> > The clamps that they used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they
> > would use stainless steel clamps??
>
> At Midas? At Speedy? Pffft.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:

> So where can you get a real stainless steel muffler for a 93 grand
> caravan 3.3 litre AWD.

You can't. Not an application-specific one, and most all the aftermarket
stainless mufflers are "performance" items that sound absolutely awful
behind V6s.

> I just called the dealer and the parts guy admitted that they use the
> same muffler as Midas etc. He said the supplier was Walker.

Walker makes at least two different mufflers for an application like yours
-- an "economy" item that doesn't last, a "premium QUiet-Flow" item that's
a quality product, and then there are the "Pro-Fit" universal "just about
the right size and shape" mufflers used by the likes of Midas.


>
>
>
> "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.60.0410121507590.8768@ns7>...
> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:
> >
> > > I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy (can't
> > > remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When I
> > > checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes leading
> > > to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if Midas/Speedy
> > > are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes that are welded
> > > to the muffler themselves are just mild steel??
> >
> > If you patronize places like Midas or Speedy, you get crapola -- even if
> > you pay for their "premium" stuff. I doubt they installed a
> > stainless-steel muffler on your car at Midas or Speedy, unless it was a
> > cheaply-made "universal" muffler. Even the best quality name-brand
> > mufflers available for your '93 Caravan aren't stainless like the original
> > Chrysler unit was -- they're aluminized steel, same as you'll get if you
> > try to buy an "original equipment" muffler from the dealer.
> >
> > > The clamps that they used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they
> > > would use stainless steel clamps??
> >
> > At Midas? At Speedy? Pffft.
>

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:

> So where can you get a real stainless steel muffler for a 93 grand
> caravan 3.3 litre AWD.

You can't. Not an application-specific one, and most all the aftermarket
stainless mufflers are "performance" items that sound absolutely awful
behind V6s.

> I just called the dealer and the parts guy admitted that they use the
> same muffler as Midas etc. He said the supplier was Walker.

Walker makes at least two different mufflers for an application like yours
-- an "economy" item that doesn't last, a "premium QUiet-Flow" item that's
a quality product, and then there are the "Pro-Fit" universal "just about
the right size and shape" mufflers used by the likes of Midas.


>
>
>
> "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.60.0410121507590.8768@ns7>...
> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Steve L. wrote:
> >
> > > I had my muffler changed about 2 or 3 yrs ago at midas or speedy (can't
> > > remember) on a 93 grand caravan. It fell off this weekend. When I
> > > checked it, the muffler itself was like new but the small pipes leading
> > > to and from the muffler were all corroded. I'm wondering if Midas/Speedy
> > > are using stainless steel on the muffler but the pipes that are welded
> > > to the muffler themselves are just mild steel??
> >
> > If you patronize places like Midas or Speedy, you get crapola -- even if
> > you pay for their "premium" stuff. I doubt they installed a
> > stainless-steel muffler on your car at Midas or Speedy, unless it was a
> > cheaply-made "universal" muffler. Even the best quality name-brand
> > mufflers available for your '93 Caravan aren't stainless like the original
> > Chrysler unit was -- they're aluminized steel, same as you'll get if you
> > try to buy an "original equipment" muffler from the dealer.
> >
> > > The clamps that they used were corroded badly as well. You'd think they
> > > would use stainless steel clamps??
> >
> > At Midas? At Speedy? Pffft.
>

Stainless steel is non-metallic.....Place a magnet against it and if it sticks
IS NOT stainless steel....

Stainless steel is non-metallic.....Place a magnet against it and if it sticks
IS NOT stainless steel....