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Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:21:37 -0400, "Mike T." > wrote:
> >"Bill Funk" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:47:53 -0400, "Mike T." > wrote: >> >>>> to get around that issue. For what it's worth, in Tennessee, I think you >>>> need your birth certificate and two items with your current address on >>>> them to get a license. >>> >>>So how do you get a driver's license in TN if you just moved to TN, and >>>just >>>rented or bought a property at the same time that you moved? If you wait >>>a >>>couple of months (to get a TN driver's license), then you will have >>>utility >>>bills, etc., with your name and current address on them. But I wouldn't >>>be >>>surprised if TN law requires you to get a TN driver's license within X >>>number of days of moving TO TN, or you are automatically suspended/heavily >>>fined/something else nasty. -Dave >>> >> Most people who move into a state and want a driver's license already >> have one from the state they moved from. Problem solved there. > >Nope. From what someone else posted, TN requires ID with current address on >it. That is, out-of-state driver's license wouldn't likely have a TN >address on it. -Dave > From: http://www.state.tn.us/safety/requireddocsign.htm Yes, you need 2 proofs of current residency; they suggest utility bill, all the regular stuff. Which would include rent receipt, bank receipt for setting up an account, receipt for startup payment for utilities... All things a normal new resident would be able to accumulate within the grace period. -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:42:15 -0500, "Allen Seth Dunn"
> wrote: > >"Mike T." > wrote in message freenews.net... >>> Personally, I'm for requiring ID. Otherwise, how do you know who is >>> actually able/allowed to vote? An ID isn't anywhere as hard to get as >>> some make it out to be. >> >> Really? Check this out: >> >> Note that IN ADDITION TO your original birth certificate and your original >> social security card, you need six more points of ID. Various other forms >> of ID earn points, such as (photo license from another state, 2 points, >> whew!) >> >> http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/idlicense.htm >> >> Basically, to get an ID in New York state, you need a hefty briefcase to >> organize all the paperwork you need to haul to the NY DMV. This is for a >> non-driver ID, BTW. -Dave >> > >The problem with getting ID nowadays is the run around you get if you are >missing both of your most basic forms of identification. Those being your >birth certificate and social security card. Locally where I live near >Nashville, TN, I've heard that many of the problems related to those trying >to help the legitimately homeless (in other words, not drug addicts), is >that very few of the homeless have a valid driver's license/state ID or a >birth certificate or social security card. The problem is, many states >require that a valid state ID to get a copy of your birth certificate. So >basically, the homeless are stuck in sort of a catch-22, and it requires a >lot of work (and help, from someone who's experienced dealing with that it) >to get around that issue. For what it's worth, in Tennessee, I think you >need your birth certificate and two items with your current address on them >to get a license. > Here is a site that gives the necessary information to obtain birth, death, marraige or divorce documentation for all US states and territories: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/howto/w2w/w2welcom.htm As far as I can tell, nearly every jurisdictions offers some sort of workaround, so the "Catch 22" is more likely to be an excuse or sloppy thinking, rather than fact. For example: Connecticut: A copy of a photographic identification must be submitted with any request for a birth certificate. The identification must be a valid, government issued document. It this is not available, you may submit photocopies of two other forms of identification. Colorado: All requests for birth and death record must be accompanied by a photo copy of the requestor's identification before processing. |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:21:37 -0400, "Mike T." > wrote:
> >"Bill Funk" > wrote in message .. . >> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:47:53 -0400, "Mike T." > wrote: >> >>>> to get around that issue. For what it's worth, in Tennessee, I think you >>>> need your birth certificate and two items with your current address on >>>> them to get a license. >>> >>>So how do you get a driver's license in TN if you just moved to TN, and >>>just >>>rented or bought a property at the same time that you moved? If you wait >>>a >>>couple of months (to get a TN driver's license), then you will have >>>utility >>>bills, etc., with your name and current address on them. But I wouldn't >>>be >>>surprised if TN law requires you to get a TN driver's license within X >>>number of days of moving TO TN, or you are automatically suspended/heavily >>>fined/something else nasty. -Dave >>> >> Most people who move into a state and want a driver's license already >> have one from the state they moved from. Problem solved there. > >Nope. From what someone else posted, TN requires ID with current address on >it. That is, out-of-state driver's license wouldn't likely have a TN >address on it. -Dave > That's Dave for you - playing the fool on Usenet. A little research goes a long way, but Dave won't be on the train, apparently. http://www.state.tn.us/safety/DLFAQS/dlquestion12.htm Question: I just moved to Tennessee. When do I get my Tennessee driver license and what tests will I have to take? Answer: New residents holding a valid out-of-state driver license must obtain a Tennessee driver license no later than thirty (30) days after establishing residency. All out-of-state driver licenses must be surrendered. Tennessee law does not allow a resident of this state to hold more than one valid driver license. New residents must provide two (2) proofs of their current valid Tennessee residence address (Click here for examples of acceptable proofs of residency.) as well as proof of citizenship or legal presence (Click here for examples of acceptable proof of citizenship) and Social Security Number. (Note: Related Document - Quick guide of documents need to obtain a Tennessee Driver License. Available in PDF or HTML format in both English and Spanish - ¿Trajo Los Documentos Necesarios? PDF - HTML ) If a new resident brings a valid, out-of-state driver license (or a certified driving record from that state showing the license has not expired), only the vision test is required unless otherwise deemed necessary by the Examiner. However, if the license has expired over six months, all tests are required. New residents from other countries are required to take full tests: vision, knowledge, and road tests. They will be allowed to keep the license issued by that country. For more general driver license information (general info, office locations, online services etc.), visit the Driver License Issuance section of our website. Back to Driver License FAQ Menu |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
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> That's Dave for you - playing the fool on Usenet. > > A little research goes a long way, but Dave won't be on the train, > apparently. > http://www.state.tn.us/safety/DLFAQS/dlquestion12.htm > Question: I just moved to Tennessee. When do I get my Tennessee driver > license and what tests will I have to take? > > Answer: New residents holding a valid out-of-state driver license must > obtain a Tennessee driver license no later than thirty (30) days after > establishing residency. All out-of-state driver licenses must be > surrendered. Tennessee law does not allow a resident of this state to > hold more than one valid driver license. > > New residents must provide two (2) proofs of their current valid > Tennessee residence address (Click here for examples of acceptable > proofs of residency.) as well as proof of citizenship or legal > presence (Click here for examples of acceptable proof of citizenship) > and Social Security Number. Nope, you didn't read what you yourself just posted. The last time we moved, we didn't get any utility bill for about 45 days after we moved, and that one was for the last month and a half. Also, my wife couldn't get a checking account with her name on it because she had no proof of local residency. That was silly, really . . . the bank gladly issued ME a checking account, but they wouldn't take my word for it that my wife was married to me and living with me. Even a copy of our marriage license and a photo ID didn't help. WTF??? According to the TN rules, my wife would have been in violation of TN law because she wouldn't have qualified for a license until sometime -after- the 30-day grace period. She could have applied the same day we moved there, but she wouldn't have gotten one until about 2 months later. -Dave |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
"> > From: > http://www.state.tn.us/safety/requireddocsign.htm > Yes, you need 2 proofs of current residency; they suggest utility > bill, all the regular stuff. > Which would include rent receipt, bank receipt for setting up an > account, receipt for startup payment for utilities... > All things a normal new resident would be able to accumulate within > the grace period. > -- Not so fast. If our last move had been to TN, my wife wouldn't have been able to come up with the proper proofs till about 2 months after we actually moved to TN. States seem to be ignorant of the fact that it's possible to be a legal, local resident, and NOT have your name on anything local. It's quite probable, in fact. It's called MARRIED, with your spouse buying the house and paying all the utility bills. And as I mentioned before, our bank was being a real pain in the ASS when it came to my wife trying to get a checking account. Didn't happen until we'd jumped through a couple hoops, and was finally settled about 6 weeks after we moved. But any proof that TN would have accepted, my wife wouldn't have been able to furnish any earlier than 45 days after she became a local resident. -Dave |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:29:19 -0400, "Dave" > wrote:
> >"> >> From: >> http://www.state.tn.us/safety/requireddocsign.htm >> Yes, you need 2 proofs of current residency; they suggest utility >> bill, all the regular stuff. >> Which would include rent receipt, bank receipt for setting up an >> account, receipt for startup payment for utilities... >> All things a normal new resident would be able to accumulate within >> the grace period. >> -- > >Not so fast. If our last move had been to TN, my wife wouldn't have been >able to come up with the proper proofs till about 2 months after we actually >moved to TN. States seem to be ignorant of the fact that it's possible to >be a legal, local resident, and NOT have your name on anything local. It's >quite probable, in fact. It's called MARRIED, with your spouse buying the >house and paying all the utility bills. It's entirely possible to have the house in the names of both spouses. Who *pays* the bills is not germaine; whose name the billes are in is. If this is a problem, put the different bills in the name of each spouse; power in the wife's name, phone in hubby's name. > >And as I mentioned before, our bank was being a real pain in the ASS when it >came to my wife trying to get a checking account. Didn't happen until we'd >jumped through a couple hoops, and was finally settled about 6 weeks after >we moved. But any proof that TN would have accepted, my wife wouldn't have >been able to furnish any earlier than 45 days after she became a local >resident. -Dave > A little creative thinking will solve the ID problem. I don't remember the problem with your wife getting a checking account. -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:24:29 -0400, "Dave" > wrote:
>> >> That's Dave for you - playing the fool on Usenet. >> >> A little research goes a long way, but Dave won't be on the train, >> apparently. >> http://www.state.tn.us/safety/DLFAQS/dlquestion12.htm >> Question: I just moved to Tennessee. When do I get my Tennessee driver >> license and what tests will I have to take? >> >> Answer: New residents holding a valid out-of-state driver license must >> obtain a Tennessee driver license no later than thirty (30) days after >> establishing residency. All out-of-state driver licenses must be >> surrendered. Tennessee law does not allow a resident of this state to >> hold more than one valid driver license. >> >> New residents must provide two (2) proofs of their current valid >> Tennessee residence address (Click here for examples of acceptable >> proofs of residency.) as well as proof of citizenship or legal >> presence (Click here for examples of acceptable proof of citizenship) >> and Social Security Number. > > >Nope, you didn't read what you yourself just posted. The last time we >moved, we didn't get any utility bill for about 45 days after we moved, and >that one was for the last month and a half. Also, my wife couldn't get a >checking account with her name on it because she had no proof of local >residency. That was silly, really . . . the bank gladly issued ME a >checking account, but they wouldn't take my word for it that my wife was >married to me and living with me. Even a copy of our marriage license and a >photo ID didn't help. WTF??? Proof of local residency isn't hard. You're living somewhere, right? A rent receipt will work, as will an approved mortgage app. Maybe a change of bank would be in order, too. > >According to the TN rules, my wife would have been in violation of TN law >because she wouldn't have qualified for a license until sometime -after- the >30-day grace period. She could have applied the same day we moved there, >but she wouldn't have gotten one until about 2 months later. -Dave > -- Bill Funk replace "g" with "a" |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
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Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
>> I don't remember the problem with your wife getting a checking
>> account. > > Yes, I'd like to hear this one. We've never had any trouble > getting a checking account. > OK, it went like this. We've always had our finances somewhat separate. She earns her money, and decides what to spend it on. I earn enough money that I can handle all the household stuff with money left over, so I just pay all the bills (mortgage, utilities, etc.). So we keep two checking accounts, and various savings accounts, etc. It's just easier for us. She doesn't need to consult me before buying something, and I don't care anyway (she has her own money). Plus it's easier to keep the checkbook(s) balanced, as neither one of us is trying to keep track of someone else's transactions. When we moved a couple years ago, we moved into an area where our bank (the one we used for checking) had no branches or ATMs. No big deal, went online to research the banks in our new state and found one that looked like it would work for us. Immediately after moving, we both went to the local branch to sign up for checking accounts. This was a bank neither one of us had ever dealt with, and we had no accounts there. We had to fill out some forms, and furnish identifying documents. Those documents included something showing our local address. My name was "primary" on my checking account, her name was "primary" on her checking account. BOTH of our names were to be listed on the checks for both accounts. We were both on the signature card for both accounts. The bank manager (who was trying to get the checking accounts set up) informed us that a background check would need to be run, and that it might take about 24 hours. We didn't have anything to give the bank manager with my wife's name on it AND her new address. The mortgage, utilities, and all else related to the house were in my name. The bank manager said it shouldn't be a problem. We didn't give it much more thought. My wife still had the old checking account with money in it, so she kept using that, and she'd take out money at grocery stores, etc., (using her old debit card) so she wouldn't get dinged with the ATM fees. A couple weeks later, we get a phone call from the bank saying that they MUST get some kind of document (utility bill or something) with my wife's name and current address on it, or they'll have to close my wife's checking account as her identity could not be verified per their rules. They also said something about new federal regulations requiring a background check, blah blah. I calmly explain that there is nothing related to our property that has my wife's name on it. They wouldn't budge. We went back and forth with the bank for a few weeks. It was frustrating, but we called other banks and learned that they had the same rule, so switching banks wouldn't have helped. Finally I said ****it, called up the electric company, had the service switched to her name. Then had the electric company fax us a current statement. Then immediately called the electric company back and had the service switched back to my name. So the only way we could get my wife a checking account was with a forged utility bill, about 6 weeks after we moved. :) -Dave |
Texas driver's license to jump up to a whopping $100 or more
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:54:27 -0400, "Mike T." > wrote:
>>> I don't remember the problem with your wife getting a checking >>> account. >> >> Yes, I'd like to hear this one. We've never had any trouble >> getting a checking account. >> > >OK, it went like this. We've always had our finances somewhat separate. >She earns her money, and decides what to spend it on. I earn enough money >that I can handle all the household stuff with money left over, so I just >pay all the bills (mortgage, utilities, etc.). So we keep two checking >accounts, and various savings accounts, etc. It's just easier for us. She >doesn't need to consult me before buying something, and I don't care anyway >(she has her own money). Plus it's easier to keep the checkbook(s) >balanced, as neither one of us is trying to keep track of someone else's >transactions. > >When we moved a couple years ago, we moved into an area where our bank (the >one we used for checking) had no branches or ATMs. No big deal, went online >to research the banks in our new state and found one that looked like it >would work for us. Immediately after moving, we both went to the local >branch to sign up for checking accounts. This was a bank neither one of us >had ever dealt with, and we had no accounts there. > >We had to fill out some forms, and furnish identifying documents. Those >documents included something showing our local address. My name was >"primary" on my checking account, her name was "primary" on her checking >account. BOTH of our names were to be listed on the checks for both >accounts. We were both on the signature card for both accounts. The bank >manager (who was trying to get the checking accounts set up) informed us >that a background check would need to be run, and that it might take about >24 hours. > >We didn't have anything to give the bank manager with my wife's name on it >AND her new address. The mortgage, utilities, and all else related to the >house were in my name. The bank manager said it shouldn't be a problem. We >didn't give it much more thought. My wife still had the old checking >account with money in it, so she kept using that, and she'd take out money >at grocery stores, etc., (using her old debit card) so she wouldn't get >dinged with the ATM fees. > >A couple weeks later, we get a phone call from the bank saying that they >MUST get some kind of document (utility bill or something) with my wife's >name and current address on it, or they'll have to close my wife's checking >account as her identity could not be verified per their rules. They also >said something about new federal regulations requiring a background check, >blah blah. I calmly explain that there is nothing related to our property >that has my wife's name on it. They wouldn't budge. We went back and forth >with the bank for a few weeks. It was frustrating, but we called other >banks and learned that they had the same rule, so switching banks wouldn't >have helped. > >Finally I said ****it, called up the electric company, had the service >switched to her name. Then had the electric company fax us a current >statement. Then immediately called the electric company back and had the >service switched back to my name. > >So the only way we could get my wife a checking account was with a forged >utility bill, about 6 weeks after we moved. :) -Dave > No, that is the way that you CHOSE to do it, but if the electric bill had been in her name on your first visit, all the melodrama would have been avoided. The fact that you chose to make things more difficult doesn't mean that there was no other way to do it. |
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