Damn pigs need a good kicking in the teeth...
 

I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed a
police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the intersection,
then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and take off
rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at 25 MPH.
I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later. The cop
must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like 50 MPH
as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between the
previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red light
with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind the
other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more appropriate
speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this was
without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through town where
he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking around,
several with small children.

I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I believe
the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police station
tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
"officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting it
and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend like
nothing ever happened.

Cory

It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
proof that misconduct is happening.

The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
illegal.

"Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
...
>I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed a
> police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
> protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the
> intersection,
> then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and take
> off
> rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at 25
> MPH.
> I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later. The
> cop
> must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like 50 MPH
> as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between the
> previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red light
> with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind the
> other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more appropriate
> speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this was
> without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through town
> where
> he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking
> around,
> several with small children.
>
> I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I
> believe
> the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police
> station
> tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
> written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
> "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting
> it
> and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend like
> nothing ever happened.
>
> Cory
>
>

It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
proof that misconduct is happening.

The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
illegal.

"Cory Dunkle" > wrote in message
...
>I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed a
> police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
> protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the
> intersection,
> then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and take
> off
> rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at 25
> MPH.
> I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later. The
> cop
> must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like 50 MPH
> as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between the
> previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red light
> with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind the
> other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more appropriate
> speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this was
> without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through town
> where
> he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking
> around,
> several with small children.
>
> I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I
> believe
> the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police
> station
> tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to make a
> written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about this
> "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for reporting
> it
> and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend like
> nothing ever happened.
>
> Cory
>
>

Skip Elliott Bowman wrote:
> It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
> Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
> proof that misconduct is happening.
>
> The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
> an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
> refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
> illegal.

I've had them refuse in the past (not a trivial case like this one). Would
appreciate a reference to the federal law in case it happens again.

Skip Elliott Bowman wrote:
> It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
> Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
> proof that misconduct is happening.
>
> The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
> an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
> refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
> illegal.

I've had them refuse in the past (not a trivial case like this one). Would
appreciate a reference to the federal law in case it happens again.

Cory Dunkle wrote:
> I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed
a
> police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
> protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the
intersection,
> then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and
take off
> rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at
25 MPH.
> I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later.
The cop
> must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like
50 MPH
> as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between
the
> previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red
light
> with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind
the
> other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more
appropriate
> speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this
was
> without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through
town where
> he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking
around,
> several with small children.
>
> I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I
believe
> the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police
station
> tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to
make a
> written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about
this
> "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for
reporting it
> and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend
like
> nothing ever happened.
>
> Cory

Thanks for the heads up. The next time I see NJ municipal plate
MG40715, I'll know to be extra careful.

Cory Dunkle wrote:
> I just got back from taking my girlfriend home. On the way I observed
a
> police car in front of me. I pulled up behind him at a red light. The
> protected left turned green adn he gunned it forward into the
intersection,
> then stopped and waited. Then he proceeded to run the red light and
take off
> rather quickly down the residential/small business street posted at
25 MPH.
> I proceeded once the light had turned green, several seocnds later.
The cop
> must have been doing at least upwards of 40 MPH, probably more like
50 MPH
> as it seems he got to the next light as I was about halfway between
the
> previous light and the next light. Then when he approached the red
light
> with a single car waiting at the light he stopped and waited behind
the
> other car. Once the light turned green he proceeded at a more
appropriate
> speed and then turned around a little ways down that street. All this
was
> without his light bar on or any siren or horn whatsoever. Through
town where
> he was doing 40-50 MPH in the 25 MPH zone there were people walking
around,
> several with small children.
>
> I wrote down his license plate number, NJ municipal plate MG40715. I
believe
> the car was a Haddon Township police car. I plan to go to the police
station
> tomorrow, if they are open that is, and do whatever is necessary to
make a
> written complaint. of course I don't expect anything to be done about
this
> "officers" reckless behavior, but at least I'll feel better for
reporting it
> and having it on paper, assuming the pigs don't shred it and pretend
like
> nothing ever happened.
>
> Cory

Thanks for the heads up. The next time I see NJ municipal plate
MG40715, I'll know to be extra careful.

"Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
> Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
> proof that misconduct is happening.
>
> The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
> an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
> refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
> illegal.

Which federal law would that be? And yes, cops do give you every
opportunity to lodge a complaint. What happens after that depends on the
business the cop was conducting at the time. Remember that emergency
vehicles are not normal traffic whether they are operating with lights and
siren or not.

If the complaint is unfounded, since emergency vehicles are exempt from
traffic law when in the performance of their duties, how would you show this
as misconduct? I agree that none of us here know what was going on that
prompted the behavior but you and the OP automatically assume that the cop
did this without cause when it sounds to me like he was en route to a call
and was cancelled, or sent to a different call during this.

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jaybird
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I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.

"Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
> Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
> proof that misconduct is happening.
>
> The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
> an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
> refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
> illegal.

Which federal law would that be? And yes, cops do give you every
opportunity to lodge a complaint. What happens after that depends on the
business the cop was conducting at the time. Remember that emergency
vehicles are not normal traffic whether they are operating with lights and
siren or not.

If the complaint is unfounded, since emergency vehicles are exempt from
traffic law when in the performance of their duties, how would you show this
as misconduct? I agree that none of us here know what was going on that
prompted the behavior but you and the OP automatically assume that the cop
did this without cause when it sounds to me like he was en route to a call
and was cancelled, or sent to a different call during this.

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jaybird
---
I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.

"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:14:54 GMT, "Skip Elliott Bowman"
> > wrote:
>
>>It's important to make a paper trail documenting this and other incidents.
>>Nothing may come of this one incident, but it can be used as documented
>>proof that misconduct is happening.
>>
>>The cops are required by federal law to answer your questions and give you
>>an opportunity to lodge written complaints, no matter the content. To
>>refuse is illegal, plain and simple. To harass a complainant is also
>>illegal.
>
> And for four cops to beat the **** out of a suspect with their
> nightsticks is REALLY illegal.

No, that's not illegal at all depending on the circumstances. Four cops
could be shooting at one person and it's not illegal considering the events
prior to it.

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jaybird
---
I am not the cause of your problems.
My actions are the result of your actions.
Your life is not my fault.