Duratec V6, synthetic or regular oil?
 

Hello,
I have a new 2004 Ford Escape, with the Duratec V6 3.0L. Currently
the vehicle has 1,000 miles on it, and I would like to change the oil
& filter. According to the manual, Ford recommends to use 5W-20
(Motorcraft semi-synthetic for U.S. and Motorcraft regular for
Canada). I have no idea why the difference between U.S. and Canada.

How long in miles does the break-in period typically last for this
engine, and what kind of oil (type, weight, and brand) is recommended
during the break-in period, and after the break-in period for this
engine??? I have seen some posts for other engines, but nothing on
this engine specifically yet.

Thank you for all input and feedback!!!
--
Chris

"Chris Szilagyi" > wrote in message
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> Hello,
> I have a new 2004 Ford Escape, with the Duratec V6 3.0L. Currently
> the vehicle has 1,000 miles on it, and I would like to change the oil
> & filter. According to the manual, Ford recommends to use 5W-20
> (Motorcraft semi-synthetic for U.S. and Motorcraft regular for
> Canada). I have no idea why the difference between U.S. and Canada.
>
> How long in miles does the break-in period typically last for this
> engine, and what kind of oil (type, weight, and brand) is recommended
> during the break-in period, and after the break-in period for this
> engine???

You said it: 5W-20 Semisynthetic.

I think the reason why has to do with EPA regs. Some of the tests are with
5W-20; therefore, the recommended oil has to be 5W-20. I would go with
Mobil-1 5W-20. Great oil.

The break-in period lasts about 5000 mi (or whenever the manual says to
change the oil). In other words, there is no special break-in period.

Jeff


> I have seen some posts for other engines, but nothing on
> this engine specifically yet.
>
> Thank you for all input and feedback!!!
> --
> Chris

Eastward Bound wrote:

Unless if you had a car with the rare
> wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
>

No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.

Huw



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"Huw" > wrote in message >...
> Eastward Bound wrote:
>
> Unless if you had a car with the rare
> > wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
> >
>
> No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
> purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.
>
> Huw
>
>
>
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What I meant to say is that you can no longer buy a brand new car off
the dealers lot that utilized the wankel engine.

Sure you can - the Mazda RX-8. It's pretty, too! (Can you tell I want
one?) By the way, Ford has recommended all 4.6L and (I think) 3.8L engines
switch to 5W20. My '95 Crown Vic with over 120k miles runs just fine on it.
Some oil change places still suggest 5W30 for it since that was the original
factory reccomendation.

Just my 2 cents.
PoD


"Eastward Bound" > wrote in message
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> "Huw" > wrote in message
>...
> > Eastward Bound wrote:
> >
> > Unless if you had a car with the rare
> > > wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
> > >
> >
> > No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
> > purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
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>
>
> What I meant to say is that you can no longer buy a brand new car off
> the dealers lot that utilized the wankel engine.

Eastward Bound wrote:
> "Huw" > wrote in message >...
>
>>Eastward Bound wrote:
>>
>> Unless if you had a car with the rare
>>
>>>wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
>>>
>>
>>No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
>>purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.
>>
>>Huw
>>
>>
>>
>>---
>>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
>>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>>Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 03/06/04
>
>
>
>
> What I meant to say is that you can no longer buy a brand new car off
> the dealers lot that utilized the wankel engine.

Mazda will be shocked to hear your news...

http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/mazda..._overview.html

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...1/article.html

Rob

(Eastward Bound) wrote in message . com>...
> "Huw" > wrote in message >...
> > Eastward Bound wrote:
> >
> > Unless if you had a car with the rare
> > > wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
> > >
> >
> > No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
> > purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 03/06/04
>
>
>
> What I meant to say is that you can no longer buy a brand new car off
> the dealers lot that utilized the wankel engine.

What about the new Mazda RX8?

trainfan1 > wrote in message >...
> Eastward Bound wrote:
> > "Huw" > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>Eastward Bound wrote:
> >>
> >> Unless if you had a car with the rare
> >>
> >>>wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
> >>>
> >>
> >>No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
> >>purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.
> >>
> >>Huw
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>---
> >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> >>Version: 6.0.698 / Virus Database: 455 - Release Date: 03/06/04
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What I meant to say is that you can no longer buy a brand new car off
> > the dealers lot that utilized the wankel engine.
>
> Mazda will be shocked to hear your news...
>
> http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/mazda..._overview.html
>
> http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...1/article.html
>
> Rob



Are Rotary engines such a good idea? That is the question. Turbine
engines looked good on paper, sounded good in theory, but in the end
no-go.

My V6 reciprocating engine with 200 HP has more horsepower and gets
better gas mileage.

I guess my question really is, if the rotary engines have more
potential then the reciprocating engines. Why don't we seem more of
them?

"Eastward Bound" > wrote in message
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> trainfan1 > wrote in message
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> > Eastward Bound wrote:
> > > "Huw" > wrote in message
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> > >
> > >>Eastward Bound wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Unless if you had a car with the rare
> > >>
> > >>>wankel/rotary engine which is no longer made of course.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>No longer made? Of course it is. Mazda, which to all intents and
> > >>purposes is a subsiduary of Ford, make and sell them by the truckload.
> > >>
> > >>Huw
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What I meant to say is that you can no longer buy a brand new car off
> > > the dealers lot that utilized the wankel engine.
> >
> > Mazda will be shocked to hear your news...
> >
> > http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/mazda..._overview.html
> >
> > http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...1/article.html
> >
> > Rob
>
>
>
> Are Rotary engines such a good idea? That is the question. Turbine
> engines looked good on paper, sounded good in theory, but in the end
> no-go.
>
> My V6 reciprocating engine with 200 HP has more horsepower and gets
> better gas mileage.
>
> I guess my question really is, if the rotary engines have more
> potential then the reciprocating engines. Why don't we seem more of
> them?

Did you even read the article? If it's accurate, the RX-8 gets 18 city/23
highway, weighs less, has better distribution and has a double humped power
curve. It's also rated higher than your V6 at 210 horses.

One reason the rotary isn't used as much is because it's a low compression
engine. To make up for the rotary is typically turbocharged. This also
leads to poor efficiency. There isn't a huge demand for the rotary engine
so not many are made and the cost to make them is more expensive if building
a rotary engine isn't already more costly.