Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
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Fred W > wrote: > No. You can't resleeve an engine that does not have sleeves. No - but you can *sleeve* some. Used to be common if the wear or damage exceeded the maximum re-bore size. Gave you a better bore material, too. > The Alusil or Nikasil engines are alloy blocks with a very thin > coating in the bores. Not sleeves. Dunno if it's possible to sleeve the V-8. Some of the alluminium sixes had liners after the Nikasil thingie. > They will find this was a very expensive mistake. New short block, new > head. Big bucks. I hope not built up by the same firm that drops bits inside the engine without noticing...;-) Personally, I'd go for a similar mileage engine from a wreck. -- *Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: > In article >, > Fred W > wrote: > > No. You can't resleeve an engine that does not have sleeves. > > No - but you can *sleeve* some. Used to be common if the wear or damage > exceeded the maximum re-bore size. Gave you a better bore material, too. > > > The Alusil or Nikasil engines are alloy blocks with a very thin > > coating in the bores. Not sleeves. > > Dunno if it's possible to sleeve the V-8. Some of the alluminium sixes had > liners after the Nikasil thingie. > > > They will find this was a very expensive mistake. New short block, new > > head. Big bucks. > > I hope not built up by the same firm that drops bits inside the engine > without noticing...;-) > > Personally, I'd go for a similar mileage engine from a wreck. > > -- > *Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake. > > Dave Plowman London SW > To e-mail, change noise into sound. Thanks for all the advice.....looks like I might have a small fight on my hands! I wander what BMW Germany official stance would be on re sleeving a Alusil block? Thanks again to all! |
Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
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Jim > wrote: >These engines are made from an aluminum alloy that has copious quantities of >a very hard material (forget which one). Anyway, a very thin layer of hard >material forms the wear surface. Go through that, and you are left with >aluminum which is a very very very poor choice for wear. Silicon. It's the "sil" in nika/aluma-sil. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
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Cords > wrote: > I wander what BMW Germany official stance would be on re sleeving a > Alusil block? Somewhere I'd heard there were problems using a boring machine with alusil - heavy wear on the cutter. -- *Therapy is expensive, poppin' bubble wrap is cheap! You choose. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
"Rex B" > wrote in message ... > Fred W wrote: >> Cords wrote: >>> I had unfortunate incident at a BMW dealership. Whilst sevicing My 1997 >>> 740 4.4 litre the technician accidently dropped the screw top of the >>> spark plug into one bore. Needless to say on start up destroyed the >>> head and scored the cylinder. The dealership now wants to machine the >>> bore and put in a metal liner. >>> Is this possible on a aluminium alusil engine? >>> I would have thought the correct thing to do would be to replace the >>> block or the entire engine! >>> >>> Any advice would be appreciated >>> Cords >>> >> >> No. You can't resleeve an engine that does not have sleeves. > > Sure you can. It was routine back when Vegas roamed the earth. > Still is a big business when you need to reclaim an otherwise good block > that might not be replaceable. It is a common, weekly operation at any > automotive machine shop. > > But even then they didn't sleeve just the one bad cylinder. See previous, AFAIAA the walls are too thin to bore out and sleeve. |
Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
Rex B wrote:
> Fred W wrote: > >> Cords wrote: >> >>> I had unfortunate incident at a BMW dealership. Whilst sevicing My 1997 >>> 740 4.4 litre the technician accidently dropped the screw top of the >>> spark plug into one bore. Needless to say on start up destroyed the >>> head and scored the cylinder. The dealership now wants to machine the >>> bore and put in a metal liner. >>> Is this possible on a aluminium alusil engine? >>> I would have thought the correct thing to do would be to replace the >>> block or the entire engine! >>> >>> Any advice would be appreciated >>> Cords >>> >> >> No. You can't resleeve an engine that does not have sleeves. > > > Sure you can. It was routine back when Vegas roamed the earth. > Still is a big business when you need to reclaim an otherwise good block > that might not be replaceable. It is a common, weekly operation at any > automotive machine shop. > > But even then they didn't sleeve just the one bad cylinder. Yes, you are technically correct. It can be done. I should have said, "you *shouldn't*...". The ngine was not designed for sleeves and would not run the same. Besides, why settle for some bodged-up repair when the shop was obviously fully liable for the incident? -- -Fred W |
Reboring /sleeving 740 4.4 engine
"Richard Sexton" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Jim > wrote: >>These engines are made from an aluminum alloy that has copious quantities >>of >>a very hard material (forget which one). Anyway, a very thin layer of >>hard >>material forms the wear surface. Go through that, and you are left with >>aluminum which is a very very very poor choice for wear. > > Silicon. It's the "sil" in nika/aluma-sil. > > > -- > Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org > Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org > 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net > 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net During the manufacturing, all but the silica gets removed from the cylinder bore. Jim |
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